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WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Is it cold in here?:
--- Quote from: A small perverse otter on 19 May 2018, 17:57 ---
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 19 May 2018, 07:55 ---There are humans with stroke damage that leaves all their cognition intact but destroys their ability to feel emotions.
They don't turn into Spock. They're mentally paralyzed instead. They can't make the simplest daily decisions.
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I'd really like to see your citations to that. In general, if you've lost that much of your sub-thalamic circuitry, you aren't mentally paralyzed; instead, your corpse is in a irreversible vegetative state which exhibits no cortical activity. You're dead -- all that's left is a zombie that looks like you used to.
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I can't remember where I read about that and everything that comes up in a quick Google isn't any use as a citation. Better than nothing, I hope:
http://bigthink.com/experts-corner/decisions-are-emotional-not-logical-the-neuroscience-behind-decision-making
--- Quote ---A few years ago, neuroscientist Antonio Damasio made a groundbreaking discovery. He studied people with damage in the part of the brain where emotions are generated. He found that they seemed normal, except that they were not able to feel emotions. But they all had something peculiar in common: they couldn’t make decisions.
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Staff_Inflection:
I read an interesting study on people who are born without, for lack of a better term, the inability to process or feel empathy. In other words, budding childhood sociopaths.
They simply don't process emotions like everyone else. To piggyback off the previous post. They seem to recognize that there are things they do that aren't acceptable (like pushing another kid to the ground). They just lack the capacity to subconsciously not do the thing. They cant stop themselves
jwhouk:
--- Quote from: Akima on 19 May 2018, 16:23 ---
--- Quote from: Masterof7s on 19 May 2018, 03:32 ---and you can't have emotion without internal biological organs.
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This is an assumption, not a statement of fact. The QC-verse AIs are sentient, self-aware beings, which have consistently been represented as having feelings and emotions, in a manner that has no parallel in our present-day computers and robots.
The notion that you need biological organs to have emotions is essentially an appeal to some sort of mystical vitalism. Leaving aside such supernatural considerations, human beings are biological machines, operating under the same physical laws as robots. Our bodies happen to work with blood, hormones etc. as a result of our evolution, but I don't think there's any reason to believe that is the only way a sentient being can work. The very fact that we, and other animals, have emotions at all suggests that they have survival value.
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Hello, all new people. This is Akima. We call her our "center".
awgiedawgie:
--- Quote from: SpanielBear on 19 May 2018, 14:12 ---To badly quote a philosopher whose name I am deeply irritated that I cannot remember, "If they behave as and are perceived to be sentient, the wrong we would do by thinking of them as objects when they are persons far outweighs the mistake of thinking of them as persons if they are objects."
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Sounds like it is related to - or based on - the Turing Test.
But in my search, I found this excerpt from the International Joint Conferences on Artificial Intelligence from 1985:
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CONCLUSION
Computers today are increasingly behaving in ways traditionally identified as exhibiting consciousness, understanding, and learning, it may prove impossible in the future to draw a valid legal distinction between humans and computers, either because of the increased behavioral capacity of the latter group, or because the two groups will be literally, physically, inseparable. At that time, constitutional law will recognize at least some computer systems as "persons."
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Staff_Inflection:
--- Quote from: JoeCovenant on 15 May 2018, 09:04 ---I always say Jeph is at his absolute best when writing for Bubbles.
Today's strip cements that belief into place so firmly I can't move!
Love.
It.
(Yeah... is it or is it not Faye? Whoever it is, I see hugs in the near future! :) )
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Heh. I guess this opinion might not be quite as unpopular as I thought
For my money, Bubbles is the best character Jeph has ever written. I have generally liked all of the AI characters, but this overall arc and Bubbles development is Jeph's best work. You cant change my mind.
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