Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCDT strips 3746 to 3750 (21st to 25th May 2018)
sniktchtherat:
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--- Quote from: awgiedawgie on 22 May 2018, 23:23 ---To be fair to Momo, I could do nothing in the water except walk on the bottom (and I could do that quite well) until I was 17 years old, when I finally learned to keep myself afloat and swim. So in her case, it could very well be that she simply does not know how to swim. Her weight and density may be completely irrelevant.
Someone a week or two ago speculated that Bubbles was 400 pounds, and questioned the structural integrity of their bed. My wimpy little twin bed is rated for 500 pounds. Faye’s bed is bigger than mine. So I looked up full (double) sized and queen sized beds to see. The first couple beds I found in either size — just simple wood-framed beds — were rated for 800 pounds. So I have no doubts about Faye’s bed being able to handle the two of them on it (because I doubt Bubbles weighs more than 300 pounds). Besides, we’ve seen the two of them lying together on the bed a long time ago.
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A couple of points on relative AI mass: Momo is light enough that an average person can lift her. She's also short and slender, same as Winslow - I know a person who is less than 5 feet tall, and they have trouble keeping themselves above 90 pounds. Bubbles is well north of 6 feet, possibly approaching 7, and BUILT. Andre Roussimoff only hit 7'4", and he exceeded 500 lbs easily. Also, http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3150 - Bubbles has serious mass, and not all of that is the armor. Either that, or Emily is as diffuse physically as she is mentally and thus gets blown along the streets like an untethered kite.
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Yes, I estimate Momo is around 100 lbs at most. I weighed less than that when I was a teenager (I was only 4'8" when I was 14).
I reasoned that Bubbles is roughly 6'8", based on how she passes through doorways in their apartment (assuming they are standard commercial 7' doorways). The upper range for the normal weight of a large-framed human female at that height is just over 200 lbs. So I am guessing (which is all I can do) that Bubbles is probably not more than 150% of that. With her armour, possibly closer to 400. Anything more than that would have been problematic for a military combat android.
I'm guessing Emily is around 125 lbs, only because I know a couple girls who are about the same height and build as Emily, and that's what they weigh. When 125 lbs hits 400 lbs with a rubber mallet, the 400 lb person isn't going to move much, unless the 125 lb person is moving a lot faster than Emily was.
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I'll point out http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3521 - Bubbles is both taller and broader than Elliot, who is the largest human we've seen in QC. Elliot is built like a heavyweight pro wrestler from the 80s and 90s - most of them were in the 280-310 range. I'll also point out Joanie Laurer was 5'10" and weighed 180 - Bubbles has a similar bodytype, but bigger all around. Square-cube law still applies, and with human-style bodies a minor-seeming change in overall dimensions can be a surprising degree of mass. 500 is possibly pushing it, but unless there have been SuperFuture materials-weight advances in the QCverse, she's still going to be heavier than a human of equal dimensions.
Over 300, under 500, split the difference and call her non-armored weight 400. Armor mass would put her up to ~500. Regarding the issues of weight on combat, unless I'm misreading, Bubbles was infantry - not airborne or mounted infantry, 'just' infantry. Even on the rare occasions when she would have to mount up, she is rated and has demonstrated a top speed consistent with the official rated maneuver speed of most military vehicles. If she couldn't mount up, she could keep up - on foot.
Carl-E:
--- Quote from: awgiedawgie on 24 May 2018, 00:10 ---I am male as well. When I was 17, I hit 6'3" (I grew 18" in 18 months - my parents had long given up trying to keep me in clothes that fit). I was 153 lbs for the next 5 years. When I was 22, I started a job that involved a lot of heavy lifting, my upper body got stronger, and I went up to 165, where I stayed for the next 15 years. Now I'm pushing 50, and badly out of shape, and I'm 200 lbs even. My brother, on the other hand, is only 6' tall and in much better shape than me, and he's also 200 lbs. He's very dense.
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Ah. Your rapid growth may have something to do with that, as the bone density is actually considerably less after a rapid growth spurt like that. I was one of the biggest kids around until 6th grade when I stopped growing at 5'6" and watched everyone pass be by through high school (the last inch wasn't added until I was 25). No rapid growth spurt for me!
--- Quote ---The "normal" weight I used for my estimate was the same on several different health websites. I had to extrapolate, since none of their charts actually went up to 6'8" for females. For 6'0", the high weight is 179 lbs, and the chart goes up an average of 3.5 lbs per inch, so the high weight for 6'8" would be 207 lbs.
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Well, there's your problem - weight isn't linear with height. As the one dimension (height) increases, so do other dimensions, in other directions, though not as much. If I recall correctly, it's about a 3/2 or 4/3 power, but definitely larger than 1. Not as big as a square power, but definitely not linear. Note the curve to the lines in the graph below (although there's a great deal of disagreement about the cutoff for overweight/obese, the BMI gives a good idea of the volume/mass relationship with height. This graph is for women, BTW).
Besides, most of those "height/weight" charts were developed off really old data - from the 30's and 40's when most governments first started collecting it to study nutrition and health - and people have changed a lot since then. Some of the nutritional info that was learned in that research has changed the way we grow so much that we're a much larger species on average than we were!
jwhouk:
--- Quote from: Carl-E on 23 May 2018, 22:34 ---
--- Quote from: jwhouk on 23 May 2018, 20:00 ---Long time ago we had a poster here who had a headcannon as his avatar.
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DSL.
He had a different headcannon avatar before this one, this is the most recent. I like the way it turns the usual idea around.
I been here too long. Been absent even longer... I barely know anybody anymore.
Not that anything's really changed, mind you!
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Aw, Carl-E, I remember you. Hopefully the $ situation has improved?
Carl-E:
Oh, hell no. My retirement fund's almost gone.
NemesisDancer:
--- Quote from: Carl-E on 24 May 2018, 05:03 ---
--- Quote from: awgiedawgie on 24 May 2018, 00:10 ---I am male as well. When I was 17, I hit 6'3" (I grew 18" in 18 months - my parents had long given up trying to keep me in clothes that fit). I was 153 lbs for the next 5 years. When I was 22, I started a job that involved a lot of heavy lifting, my upper body got stronger, and I went up to 165, where I stayed for the next 15 years. Now I'm pushing 50, and badly out of shape, and I'm 200 lbs even. My brother, on the other hand, is only 6' tall and in much better shape than me, and he's also 200 lbs. He's very dense.
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Ah. Your rapid growth may have something to do with that, as the bone density is actually considerably less after a rapid growth spurt like that. I was one of the biggest kids around until 6th grade when I stopped growing at 5'6" and watched everyone pass be by through high school (the last inch wasn't added until I was 25). No rapid growth spurt for me!
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Exact same thing happened to me - I was one of the tallest in my year when I started secondary school, but by the time I finished school most people had overtaken me (I'm also 5'6", coincidentally). Oddly, though, I did recently go up a shoe size for the first time in twelve years. Is that something that normally happens in one's mid-twenties?
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