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How will Bubbles propose?
HughYeman:
--- Quote from: fayelovesbubbles on 22 Jun 2018, 11:24 ---I’m not sure I’d call them “vows.”
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That does seem to be the crux of this conversation, and I agree. When Bubbles said "I would never leave unless you asked me to." and Faye said "I would never ask you to.", they were employing what I take to be an idiomatic use of the word "never". When people use it in this context, they're not talking about the future. I would translate it to Bubbles saying "There is no conceivable set of circumstances that would have caused me to leave." and Faye replying "There is no conceivable set of circumstances that would have caused me to ask you to."
Is it cold in here?:
Ahh, okay! I had not thought of that.
The ambiguity is damned good writing.
JoeCovenant:
--- Quote from: HughYeman on 22 Jun 2018, 12:17 ---
--- Quote from: fayelovesbubbles on 22 Jun 2018, 11:24 ---I’m not sure I’d call them “vows.”
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That does seem to be the crux of this conversation, and I agree. When Bubbles said "I would never leave unless you asked me to." and Faye said "I would never ask you to.", they were employing what I take to be an idiomatic use of the word "never". When people use it in this context, they're not talking about the future. I would translate it to Bubbles saying "There is no conceivable set of circumstances that would have caused me to leave." and Faye replying "There is no conceivable set of circumstances that would have caused me to ask you to."
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Yeeaaaah but people always tell people they will 'never leave' people...
Then people leave people.
Undrneath:
--- Quote from: JoeCovenant on 26 Jun 2018, 01:03 ---
--- Quote from: HughYeman on 22 Jun 2018, 12:17 ---
--- Quote from: fayelovesbubbles on 22 Jun 2018, 11:24 ---I’m not sure I’d call them “vows.”
--- End quote ---
That does seem to be the crux of this conversation, and I agree. When Bubbles said "I would never leave unless you asked me to." and Faye said "I would never ask you to.", they were employing what I take to be an idiomatic use of the word "never". When people use it in this context, they're not talking about the future. I would translate it to Bubbles saying "There is no conceivable set of circumstances that would have caused me to leave." and Faye replying "There is no conceivable set of circumstances that would have caused me to ask you to."
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Yeeaaaah but people always tell people they will 'never leave' people...
Then people leave people.
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This goes for "vows" as well.
cybersmurf:
Of course that foes for vows as well, but a randomly babbled "never" still doesn't make it a vow.
Infatuation and love are powerful drugs.
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