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Gyrre:
--- Quote from: Neko_Ali on 15 Aug 2018, 22:23 ---Multiclassing for 5e? Well the first is, do you need to do it for your concept? Or is it something you can do with a single class and some feats? Are you willing to pass up the capstone powers for the classes you picked? Multiclassing in 5e tends to front load a bit more power or options in the earlier levels, but you really tend to lose out as you reach the high levels. Especially if you are a multiclassing magic caster.
If you do decide to multiclass consider the typically 4 level break points where you get feats. Since they happen when a class hits certain levels, not when your total of all classes hits a certain level. So if you went 3 levels in ranger and three in wizard for instance, no feats until you take that 4th level in one of the classes.
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I assume by "feats" you mean the class specific feats like the rogue's Uncanny Dodge and the bard's Song of Rests, right? I couldn't find anything restricting the standard feats list. And e erything I've seen agrees that taking standard feats at those level benchmarks is level cumulative. I'm not sure how early you can start multiclassing, though. But going by the examples given and the prerequisite scores for each class, I think the earliest you can multiclass is level 4. You'd still get the ability score increase or take a feat from the feat list along with the first level in whatever class.
So, going by that, would it make more sense for Link to start as a Fighter or a Ranger? And, would he focus on one, level up both equally, or keep some fractional split?
I've already planned out a rough outline. Half-Elf Fighter/Ranger multi-class, Outlander background, Sharpshooter feat, Mage-slayer feat, and Charisma as his dump stat.
EDIT: fixing typos and better organizing thoughts.
Gyrre:
Currently building a bardic spy for a high level flashback in my Saturday game (it's twice our current level). He's level 13 Ghostwise Lightfoot Halfling College of Whispers bard. His name is Jonah High-Hill and he's a scout for an as-to-yet-unknown kingdom's army. For the two additional spells from any spell list I got to pick for the Magical Secrets class feature at lvl 10, I took Fireball and Spiderclimb.
The 7th lvl spell was a hard choice between Etherealness, Arcane Projection, and Symbol. So, I rolled and got Symbol.
BTW, the Words of Terror class feat will work via his telepathic speaking according to the DM's ruling. So that'll be fun for messing with guards. Ditto for his 20 Dex and 18 Char.
EDIT: Got some "strong suggestions" from the DM hinting at what might be happening. So I switched him from Ghostwise to Lightfoot. I'm going to need that natural stealthiness. Also, fixing typos and gave him a name.
Pilchard123:
--- Quote from: Gyrre on 20 Aug 2018, 21:03 --- I assume by "feats" you mean the class specific feats like the rogue's Uncanny Dodge and the bard's Song of Rests, right? I couldn't find anything restricting the standard feats list. And e erything I've seen agrees that taking standard feats at those level benchmarks is level cumulative. I'm not sure how early you can start multiclassing, though. But going by the examples given and the prerequisite scores for each class, I think the earliest you can multiclass is level 4.
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You can multiclass as early as you want, provided you meet the ability minimums and your DM allows it. There's a build that allows you to multiclass as early as level 2 (you have the stats at level one, but only a single class).
ASIs require reaching (for example) Fighter4. If you multiclass to become Fighter3/Ranger1, you have not reached Fighter4 and cannot take an ASI. Given that you can only take a feat to replace an ASI, you also cannot take a feat.
The ASIs are a class feature, albeit one that is very common. The PHB says: "When your character gains a level, his or her class often grants additional features, as detailed in the class description. Some of these features allow you to increase your Ability Scores, either increasing two scores by 1 each or increasing one score by 2"
Jeremy Crawford, official Tweeter of Rules says: "Ability score improvements are based on your level in a particular class, not your total level if you multiclass."
Gyrre:
Good to know. D&D Beyond, Roll20, and the dnd5e wikia need to update their entries to specify that.
Pilchard123:
It already does say that. The text I quoted earlier is at Character Advancment > Beyond 1st Level for Roll20, Step-by-step Characters > Beyond 1st Level for D&D Beyond. I don't know which wikia site you mean, but I don't think there's any official one.
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