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oddtail:
This is embarrassing... but I've only NOW realised that flanking is an optional rule in 5E. There's nothing in base rules that grants automatic advantage of positioning.
Don't get me wrong, I always *ran* 5E like that, because automatic advantage is a bit much (and as I've seen pointed out when looking this up, in 5E moving around the zone an enemy threatens doesn't provoke AoO, so it's trivial compared to previous editions).
But I didn't know I was actually running RAW, not house ruling.
I think it's a combination of being used to previous editions and Pathfinder 1E, and conflating the two ALTERNATE requirements for Rogue's Sneak Attack in 5E (one being "a friend is also near your target" and the other being "you have Advantage").
But seriously, it's embarrassing that I never noticed something like this. I've been running various TTRPG for like two decades now, and I still apparently sometimes assume I know the rules without actually reading them to make sure?
I seriously was so surprised by this that I kept both looking it up and Googling it. The old way it used to work was so strongly embedded in my brain.
Gyrre:
Our current Saturday campaign DM only allows flanking for rogues and creatures with pack tactics.
oddtail:
--- Quote from: Gyrre on 27 Jun 2021, 19:49 ---Our current Saturday campaign DM only allows flanking for rogues and creatures with pack tactics.
--- End quote ---
Technically, rogues don't need flanking for Sneak Attack (but the requirement is similar to flanking in 3E), and pack tactics is not technically flanking. So I'm assuming y'all are playing RAW?
Pilchard123:
At a guess, rogues get their usual bag of tricks, but they - and only they - also get advantage for flanking. Fighters, druids, wizards, the rest, they can't get advantage for flanking.
That said, I have heard of far to many DMs who say "look, it's called Sneak Attack! Ya gotta be sneaky!" when really it should be called something like Cheap Shot or Stick-em-where-it-hurts or something. It would stop a lot of so-called balance arguments.
oddtail:
Yeah, by now it's pretty much a legacy name. It's a "kick'em in the nuts" or "stab'em in the pancreas" kind of attack, it's not explicitly about attacking from the dark like in 1E or AD&D.
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