Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCDT Strips 3811-3815 (20-24 August 2018)
Shjade:
--- Quote from: Tova on 22 Aug 2018, 21:05 ---Maybe you should read the entire post
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I read them. I used short quotes to avoid spam since long-ish posts.
Maybe you shouldn't confuse disagreeing with my response as an indication I didn't read the same thing you did.
dutchrvl:
--- Quote from: Tova on 23 Aug 2018, 03:59 ---I don't think that the recent stories have been that bad, but they feel a bit preachy, and I think it's because the "messages" of the stories, for lack of a better word, have been delivered 100% in the text. There's no subtext. But I wait in hope that we'll see a story with the same impact as the Faye and Bubbles storyline.
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Hmm, not sure if I feel like the story arcs are preachy, I just feel that the narratives and conversations have felt somewhat unnatural. I felt this especially with the Faye/Sam/Jim arc, where some of it felt slightly off, kinda like Jeph was forcing the conversation in a way to suit the point that he was trying to make too much.
Likewise, I feel that the dismissal of Claire by Marten felt forced. In the morning before going to work Marten was very aware of Claire's stressing and specifically inquired about it, yet when coming home from work and Claire specifically mentions her stress Marten suddenly ignores and dismisses it? I just don't buy that, especially knowing Marten's history of being quite observant of those types of emotional cues in people.
Additionally, somehow the current arc feels somewhat like a repeat of situations between Marten and Dora. I can't really put my finger on it and I know a real similar situation never occurred with Dora, but it still feels like I've seen it before. Does that make sense to anyone but me? Maybe not.
dutchrvl:
--- Quote from: Shjade on 22 Aug 2018, 19:26 ---
--- Quote from: brilligtove on 21 Aug 2018, 15:57 ---If his mental state is anything like mine, he noticed she was stressed and asked her about it. She said she was ok
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-- except she didn't. She said, "Well, um, actually I've been really stressed about my exams, and-"
That sentence fragment doesn't even have a "k" in it.
Edit: if you're suggesting because at some point in the past she responded "ok" to being asked how she was that justifies assuming she will remain okay indefinitely thereafter and it's then fine to not pay attention to how she answers a question she's asked...yeah, no, that's not an improvement.
--- Quote from: derris_kharlan on 22 Aug 2018, 02:42 ---To those saying Marten should know better/should have known to listen, I’d like to offer a different perspective.
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Even if this is the case, I'm decently certain no therapist would tell you a better response would be to cut the anxious person off midway through their first sentence in response to you asking them how their day went. I don't see much support for this perspective in this context.
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The post you are referring to: "he noticed she was stressed and asked her about it. She said she was ok", I am pretty sure that brilligtove was referring to the 'morning' comic when Marten inquired about Claire's state of mind before he went to work. In that instance, she did mention she was ok.
Shjade:
Directly addressed in the "Edit" sentence.
Regarding this feeling familiar to Marten & Dora for you: possibly just an effect of our having seen Dora & Marten fight/argue/talk about problems more than most other relationships in the strip?
dutchrvl:
--- Quote from: Shjade on 23 Aug 2018, 11:34 ---Directly addressed in the "Edit" sentence.
Regarding this feeling familiar to Marten & Dora for you: possibly just an effect of our having seen Dora & Marten fight/argue/talk about problems more than most other relationships in the strip?
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I only mentioned it since it makes for a slightly different read of brilligtove's post, I wasn't quite sure whether the edit was about that. Thanks for clarifying :)
I do to some extent agree with brilligtove's interpretation: if I ask my partner in the morning specifically whether she is stressed and she stresses that she is fine, after a day at work I may not immediately pick up on her answering my 'how was your day' question suddenly very differently (and with different emotion) than in the morning. Should I pick up on that? Yes, but I'm also not perfect and I am simply putting the not immediately picking up on it in context. Plus there is the general problem of most people not expecting any other response to 'how was your day?' other than 'fine', and therefore not really listening to the response at all.
Anyway, as I already mentioned I find Marten's dismissal of Claire not logical after his morning inquiry and his history in the comic.
Edit: with regards to Dora/Marten, yeah that's possible, I suppose they are the only couple where we have seen a lot of typical couple-y issues
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