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WCDT Strips 3811-3815 (20-24 August 2018)
Stoutfellow:
--- Quote from: cybersmurf on 24 Aug 2018, 07:23 ---I just re-read today's comic. Not once does Marten say "your fears are unfounded". It's all "I don't care, mom loves you anyway, and anyone who'll be disappointed is an idiot and will have to deal with consequences. Except you."
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He hasn't said that in this conversation, but he did say something to that effect in the first conversation (before Pintsize hit him with the cluedick). That answer being unsatisfactory, or at least insufficient, he's shifted his ground.
Zebediah:
--- Quote from: BenRG on 24 Aug 2018, 06:11 ---I don't think that Faye and Claire will ever be close (mostly due to their old squabble about who is the house's alpha female)
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I think the question of who is the apartment’s alpha female has been permanently settled.
It’s Bubbles.
TheEvilDog:
--- Quote from: Stoutfellow on 24 Aug 2018, 08:03 ---
--- Quote from: cybersmurf on 24 Aug 2018, 07:23 ---I just re-read today's comic. Not once does Marten say "your fears are unfounded". It's all "I don't care, mom loves you anyway, and anyone who'll be disappointed is an idiot and will have to deal with consequences. Except you."
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He hasn't said that in this conversation, but he did say something to that effect in the first conversation (before Pintsize hit him with the cluedick). That answer being unsatisfactory, or at least insufficient, he's shifted his ground.
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However, once Marten realised he's made a misstep, he goes into fully supporting Claire. If she fails, then she tries again. He won't be disappointed in her. He'll be in her corner no matter what.
But if you notice, Claire is saying "Everyone will be disappointed in her", which is a sign of the impossibly high bar she's set for herself. Even when Marten says he won't be disappointed, Claire says her mother, despite evidence that her mother loves her unconditionally and would probably join Marten in saying she wouldn't be disappointed. Then she shifts to Clinton, again, despite the evidence that okay, he can be a bit of a jerk at times, he still loves and supports Claire no matter what.
What Claire says is "Everyone expects her to ace the exams and find a great job right away." Never do we see anyone pressuring Claire to do well. And never do we see Claire say "I want to ace this exam, but I'm afraid I won't live up to my own impossibly high standards". She keeps shifting the blame elsewhere.
The problem seems to be less Marten not listening but Claire needing to realise she has this great web of support or that its okay to fail sometimes and its not the end of the world.
dutchrvl:
--- Quote from: Castlerook on 24 Aug 2018, 08:52 ---
--- Quote from: Stoutfellow on 24 Aug 2018, 08:03 ---
--- Quote from: cybersmurf on 24 Aug 2018, 07:23 ---I just re-read today's comic. Not once does Marten say "your fears are unfounded". It's all "I don't care, mom loves you anyway, and anyone who'll be disappointed is an idiot and will have to deal with consequences. Except you."
--- End quote ---
He hasn't said that in this conversation, but he did say something to that effect in the first conversation (before Pintsize hit him with the cluedick). That answer being unsatisfactory, or at least insufficient, he's shifted his ground.
--- End quote ---
However, once Marten realised he's made a misstep, he goes into fully supporting Claire. If she fails, then she tries again. He won't be disappointed in her. He'll be in her corner no matter what.
But if you notice, Claire is saying "Everyone will be disappointed in her", which is a sign of the impossibly high bar she's set for herself. Even when Marten says he won't be disappointed, Claire says her mother, despite evidence that her mother loves her unconditionally and would probably join Marten in saying she wouldn't be disappointed. Then she shifts to Clinton, again, despite the evidence that okay, he can be a bit of a jerk at times, he still loves and supports Claire no matter what.
What Claire says is "Everyone expects her to ace the exams and find a great job right away." Never do we see anyone pressuring Claire to do well. And never do we see Claire say "I want to ace this exam, but I'm afraid I won't live up to my own impossibly high standards". She keeps shifting the blame elsewhere.
The problem seems to be less Marten not listening but Claire needing to realise she has this great web of support or that its okay to fail sometimes and its not the end of the world.
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That last part is true, but also quite difficult to overcome.
Personally, I struggled tremendously with fear of failure during grad school. Never having had any real experience of scholastic failure (bar the odd F on tests here and there), struggling with some courses/research projects and therefore a real prospect of failing when it matters most (i.e. the final stage of your student life) almost paralyzed me with anxiety at times. You start imagining that everybody else expects you to continue to excel and would be terribly disappointed in you if you don't. In reality, it's generally only yourself that has these unrealistic expectations.
The odd thing is that rationally I knew all of this even during my struggles in grad school, yet emotionally I still couldn't convince me of it. I would say that Marten is largely on the right track with his approach here. ANy mention of 'that's silly' or the like is not going to help. What is going to help (at least in my personal experience) is reaffirmation of all the support you have and that nobody would be disappointed, and pointing out that even if you don't finish grad school, it's not the end of the world, it will not destroy your life, and it does not mean you have failed.
I wonder if such thoughts and fears are especially prevalent among students who always sailed through school until their grad studies.
Thrudd:
On the tangent of Bubbles as a drummer .... Hmmm. And again hmmmm.
She has demonstrated mechanical skills
Has admitted to technical prowess and speed disassembling tactical ordinance.
Definitely has a creative side brought forth via Tea appreciation.
So yeah, she should be able to pull off the technical side with a little instruction and some practice.
The kicker :claireface: is how she will be able to add creativity to the banging of the drums
(click to show/hide)//www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErOej1PJeW8This is what I envision she would set up after a bit of practice and going to town making her own instruments
Yes that is including the sledge hammer and boiler pipe chimes :-D
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