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WCDT Strips 3816-3820 (27-31 August 2018)
Emperor Norton:
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--- Quote from: themacnut on 30 Aug 2018, 08:37 ---I'm going to be surprised if this arc leads to Marten doing anything new to change his work/career path. Marten has always been pretty much been the anti-ambitious, non-career-focussed, no-ladder climbing dude who tends to go where the winds blow since the beginning of the comic. The opposite of Claire, pretty much. He may occasionally realize that drifting where the work/career winds blow means he's at the mercy of those winds, but I think it's going to take him actually being booted out of his present job (again!) for him to really do something about it. Or perhaps some extra nagging from Claire - if Marten drags his feet after that, there's some potential for conflict between them.
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I think that'd be shitty. I mean I get not liking your partner lacking ambition but this is the man she chose to date. If he likes his job and doesn't want to quit for something else, that's valid too. He pays rent, he's a good boyfriend and friend. He does purse his music with the band even if it's not for acclaim. Marten leads a good life and while having goals is important, I don't think this is a giant flaw.
Encouraging him is great but nagging wouldn't be.
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I really hate the idea that your career and your ambitions within it define you. Like, it can define some people. If they are happy with that being their thing, that they want to be the best whatever etc, that is cool. But honestly my whole life my happiness doesn't come from my job. Don't get me wrong, I like my job. I have a cool job. But that isn't what makes me happy. My friends, my wife, my kids, board games, video games, tabletop rpgs make me happy. My job lets me keep doing all those other things, and keep me in a house. It isn't who I am, and I don't need to be actively trying to "better my career".
And Marten doesn't either. If he is happy where he is, that is good enough.
Jakk Frost:
I get that it's to keep the comic PG and all, but ladies, if you sit up in bed while having a discussion with your significant other, do you really feel the need to cover your boobs with the sheet the way this comic depicts, and the way all TV shows seem to depict?
brasca:
--- Quote from: Jakk Frost on 30 Aug 2018, 17:06 ---I get that it's to keep the comic PG and all, but ladies, if you sit up in bed while having a discussion with your significant other, do you really feel the need to cover your boobs with the sheet the way this comic depicts, and the way all TV shows seem to depict?
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Sadly the advertisers demand it. Adult situations, profanity, and violence will slide, but no nudity no matter how tasteful.
Things were getting heavy since I last visited. Glad there’s still a message board to return to.
hedgie:
True, and Giggle can be pretty heavy-handed (they already forced Jeph to remove a link to Oglaf from the main page). I don't know how much of his income is advertising versus selling merch or Patreon backers, but I don't think it fair to ask him to take the pay cut.
themacnut:
--- Quote from: Emperor Norton on 30 Aug 2018, 16:44 ---I really hate the idea that your career and your ambitions within it define you....Don't get me wrong, I like my job. I have a cool job. But that isn't what makes me happy. My friends, my wife, my kids, board games, video games, tabletop rpgs make me happy. My job lets me keep doing all those other things, and keep me in a house. It isn't who I am, and I don't need to be actively trying to "better my career".
And Marten doesn't either. If he is happy where he is, that is good enough.
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I agree with you completely; I think if someone's greatest work-related ambition is making sure they have a job that's not too shitty, pays the bills and gives them a little extra to do fun things outside work, that is a noble ambition indeed. Marten clearly subscribes to this philosophy as well, most of the time anyway. Claire however, does not seem to, as evidenced by all her years at school pursuing the educational requirements of her chosen career. And it's been my experience that people who tend to put a lot of time and effort into their career ambitions tend to have less respect for those willing to "settle" for "a job that pays the bills". We may have seen some hints of this in the previous discussion between Marten and Claire.
Yes, Claire was worried about her career prospects post-graduation and this worry influenced the things she said, but the shots she took at Marten about the way he got the library job were Not Cool. I hope she learns to respect Marten's relative lack of career ambitions compared to hers, or the good ship Clairten could be in for rough seas ahead.
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