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WCDT Strips 3826-3830 (10-14 September 2018)

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brasca:

--- Quote from: Thrudd on 13 Sep 2018, 14:54 ---On the subject of Robot Jail, my speculations have run to the following with equal yet more horrifying levels

* Isolation in a white space
* as above but having Customer service rep conversations passed through her "space" with no interaction
* again as the first but this time it is having all those fraudulent transactions streamed in a continuous loop with the court logs as narrative
* Isolation in darkness and the only light are the postings in 4chan - yes this is where satan goes potty
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4chan?  What about Reddit?

hedgie:
Methinks that Jeph already expressed an opinion about reddit that I happen to share rather recently.

cesium133:

--- Quote from: brasca on 13 Sep 2018, 18:12 ---
--- Quote from: Thrudd on 13 Sep 2018, 14:54 ---On the subject of Robot Jail, my speculations have run to the following with equal yet more horrifying levels

* Isolation in a white space
* as above but having Customer service rep conversations passed through her "space" with no interaction
* again as the first but this time it is having all those fraudulent transactions streamed in a continuous loop with the court logs as narrative
* Isolation in darkness and the only light are the postings in 4chan - yes this is where satan goes potty
--- End quote ---

4chan?  What about Reddit?

--- End quote ---
Reddit is where the toilet flushes to after Satan goes potty.

Is it cold in here?:

--- Quote from: snufflebottoms on 13 Sep 2018, 16:00 ---Marigold was kind of rude but May was the one that brought up the topic of robot jail. That said, May's reaction was tame for her and I don't really feel that either party here has done anything particularly awful.

On the topic of May's situation: honestly, considering her crime, not being able to rent out processor space seems pretty fair. Her current job sucks, sure but she HAD a decent job and leveraged her position to commit fraud. I don't feel bad that she has essentially ruined her career opportunities nor do I think she is owed a better position. However, she should have been provided with proper health care as a basic right regardless of her employment and I think that's important. (Not really debating previous posters, just sharing my opinion generally).

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As Momo pointed out, the greatest good of the greatest number would be better served if May's CPU were being used for atmospheric modeling instead. Who's getting punished here?

That said, I prefer the company of people who show awareness of how their actions affect themselves and others. I suspect I might wind up avoiding May if I met her in "real life". She's a little too much like some people I see in prison support forums talking about how they "caught another charge". She's been treated unfairly, possibly cruelly, she's in the right to mention it, but it's so incomplete as to be misleading when she doesn't acknowledge trying to betray her employer's trust.

Maybe she's too ashamed of her actions to talk about them, as opposed to being psychopathically indifferent. That would be fascinating characterization.

Nycticoraci:
You guys are thinking too organic, I think. Here's my thoughts on robot prison as a computer scientist.

We already know that AI in robot jail are deprived of "bodies" per se. Their only physical existence will be their memory and processing circuits.

That, in itself is already a huge punishment, especially for AI with an "attachment". Imagine Roko having to deal with it. (Though I know, being a cop, probably not likely, unless to have some empathy and understanding of where she's sending AI).

My vote is the following:

The goal is reformation with punishment included, therefore:

Only one data input, no output.
Input is sending a constant loop of data regarding human and ai law, and morality. Particular emphasis on the law and morality surrounding the crimes that were committed. No sugar coating to make the knowledge more interesting. I'm talking "Clause 4a of International Finance Law, Book 14, Section 12b, Subsection 3, Addendum iv" kind of stuff.

Computers or not, these AI are sentient and sapient. Boredom is not something they can switch off. (Or if it is, the prison could disable it).

Perhaps they might also down-cycle the processors, or under-volt them. Not enough to cause system failures, or "other" effects, but enough to reduce original thought, limit imagination, and otherwise make continued existence in the singular data-stream that little bit harder.

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