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WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
Thrillho:
I certainly wasn't deliberately giving a hard time to anybody.
BryanP, if you're feeling jumped on here, then I apologise. My original question was mainly because the legality aspect hasn't stopped 99% of the people I know. I was curious as to why it stopped you in particular, and then my aghast responses were at American employment policy and law, certainly not at you.
The off-topic point is definitely noted, so let's all - including me - get back to the comic, eh?
A small perverse otter:
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--- Quote from: Zebediah on 13 Nov 2018, 05:42 ---Yeah, drug testing is a feature of many professions. I got regularly tested as a software developer working for a major corporation.
Off-topic - this is either a Tapatalk bug or some weird interaction between the forum and Tapatalk, but Tapatalk is informing me that I am banned from the forum. Obviously this is incorrect since I can still post through a browser. But somebody with access to the back end may want to take a look.
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I can see random drug testing for occupations that have a strong safety aspect, but a software developer? Really? What are you going to do, program some really laid back code?
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There are at least three reasons. One is uniformity: if you test and fire fork-lift operators, you need to treat your software developers the same way. Just saying "Well, it won't matter" is both unfair and possibly untrue. You don't actually know what downstream consequences your policy might have. The second is liability mitigation: on-premise intoxication is closely associated with an increase in HR violations, ranging from misuse of company resources...like, you know, a fork-lift?...to increases in impermissible harassment. The third is information and physical security: if you are using a controlled substance incorrectly, then your risk of activities which impair site or information security rises due to impaired judgment.
You can reasonably argue that the same concerns apply to alcohol, and you'd be right. That's one of the reasons that some companies impose a no alcohol policy on company events: they're limiting risk.
pwhodges:
I agree we should be careful around this subject (but it is what the comic is currently about). But I see no bullying. If anything I see sympathy for being bound by laws and their enforcement which many people would rather see changed. Plus an explanation of circumstances in which restrictions absolutely make sense (just as drink/drive laws do).
Theta9:
--- Quote from: Zebediah on 13 Nov 2018, 05:42 ---Yeah, drug testing is a feature of many professions. I got regularly tested as a software developer working for a major corporation.
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I was a school bus driver until just a couple of months ago, and anybody who wants a Commercial Driver's License has to submit to a DoT physical which includes a drug test - DoT is a federal body. Even though weed's legal here in Oregon.
BryanP:
--- Quote from: Thrillho on 13 Nov 2018, 12:25 ---I certainly wasn't deliberately giving a hard time to anybody.
BryanP, if you're feeling jumped on here, then I apologise. My original question was mainly because the legality aspect hasn't stopped 99% of the people I know. I was curious as to why it stopped you in particular, and then my aghast responses were at American employment policy and law, certainly not at you.
The off-topic point is definitely noted, so let's all - including me - get back to the comic, eh?
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I’ve been offline most of the day, so I’m just seeing this. It’s fine.
And since you and others were talking about it, guns also play in to it. I’m one of those eeeeevil gun owners who likes to blow holes in defenseless paper targets at my local firing range. Based on recent court decisions, even if my state legalizes medical marijuana, until it’s completely legalized at the federal level I can’t touch it or I lose my rights to own firearms.
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