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WCDT Strips 3886 - 3890 (3rd - 7th December 2018)
BenRG:
Now, Roko, as a former police officer, you must be familiar with how everyday behaviour can turn into law in most people's eyes simply by the fact that everyone does it!
Seriously, though, this strip has the feel to me that something Jeph wrote in response to the number of people who weren't satisfied with how he handled Roko quitting the police force. He seems to have decided to handle this by trying to give some background. He is presenting what happened as basically the end result of misgivings she'd been having for a long time about other officers' conduct and how she was being perceived as being part of a police organisation. People were afraid of her and reflexively distrusted her (including those who really didn't have any obvious reason to do so) and that didn't sit right with her. In essence, she had just had enough, irrespective of whether or not the worst cultural stereotypes about the police had any validity.
As for her concerns about her ineffectiveness? Outside of superhero comics, there is very little that one individual, no matter how talented, can do. This is why all the best positive social changes have been the results of large numbers working together to a common goal. Hopefully, Roko will find people to work with and systems to work in which she feels confident can make her part of a force for good.
Panel 3 was a nice touch. It seems that Bubbles isn't fully aware of her strength always. She's going to need time and practice to try to do a reassuring shoulder squeeze without buckling bones and structural spars!
Cornelius:
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 06 Dec 2018, 19:03 ---Artag talked about "seeing past" an emotional reaction. It would make sense, a priori, if AIs had better readouts of their internal state and more awareness than we do. The most likely reason they don't is that they weren't deliberately designed.
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It wouldn't surprise me that that would be the case for some of the larger AI, like Station, or Spookybot, for whom their consciousness - on a human level - is just another subroutine. For others, I think it's also the physical limit of processing power that's playing a part. I believe it's been stated before that a lot of that goes to subconscious subroutines - just like ours does.
JoeCovenant:
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--- Quote from: Rincewind on 04 Dec 2018, 12:39 ---I vaguely recall seeing and album cover with the title "Quark Strangeness and Charm" maybe by Tangerine Dream?
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Hawkwind.
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Michael Moorcock performed with them, didn't he?
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Not sure about live on stage, but he did co-write some tracks, and narrate them on a couple of albums.
I like to call Hawkwind "Britain's answer to the Grateful Dead, except they're actually psychedelic, and don't suck."
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And they also the legend that was Lemmy playing bass with them (And even singing arguably their biggest hit 'Silver Machine')
JoeCovenant:
I think we're maybe being a little harsh on our new friend asking about AI and emotions...?
It should be remembered (in fact I am surprised it hasn't been mentioned already) that one of the over-encompassing cultural examples we have of a human AI in popular fiction is Data from ST:TNG - an android who actively struggled to attain emotions, while seeing other AI receive them (Lore-(his brother) and Lal - (his 'child') )
Lore seemed to get worse when he inserted Data's emotion ship, and Lal was basically destroyed by them messing up her neural net (IIRC).
When Data himself DID receive emotions (First from Lore himself (TNG:Descent), and secondly in the movie ST:Generations) they caused him nothing but problems. (And in the movie First Contact -he is seen to turn it OF so that he is unhampered by it) in Insurrection he 'leaves his emotion chip behind' when going on a mission, and in Nemesis he is acting as if he has never had it. (He uses the line "I feel nothing" in that movie.)
Using him as an example - it's not too much of a stretch to see after all his yearning for them, Data getting emotions was not beneficial for him after all.
So, yeah - I totally understand why someone might see AIs as being *crippled* by emotions.
Hell, are we really insisting that emotions cannot BE crippling?
Secondly - Seriously... what's happening with characters necks? (Bubbles especially) - is it just me or have they gotten thinner and longer?
Theta9:
--- Quote from: JoeCovenant on 07 Dec 2018, 00:34 ---
--- Quote from: Theta9 on 06 Dec 2018, 07:34 ---I like to call Hawkwind "Britain's answer to the Grateful Dead, except they're actually psychedelic, and don't suck."
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And they also the legend that was Lemmy playing bass with them (And even singing arguably their biggest hit 'Silver Machine')
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Not a legend. A fact. Until he got busted trying to carry methamphetamine across the US/Canada border. Then they fired him, and he went on to found Motörhead (which was the title of a Hawkwind song that he wrote).
(Edit: this is the wrong album cover. )
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4vQ-eYgIy0
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