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WCDT 14-18 January 2019 (3916-3920)
Lear:
--- Quote from: Fhqwhgads on 14 Jan 2019, 01:35 ---Fellow wonderbreads, protip: NEVER NEVER ask if you can touch their hair. You can't. AND FOR GOD'S SAKE DON'T JUST DO IT.
Just, just no
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But that's just generalisation, too. When I first met my black wife, she would not take her wig off, like, ever. She thought her natural hair was disgusting, and everyone would hate her if they saw it. At that point in time, I'm pretty sure she would have freaked out if someone touched her. (mostly because they took her wig off).
IIRC the transistion began when she watched a German video where a white blonde used curlers to get very finly curled hair. She just couldn't understand why anyone would do that to themself - she had such nice, straight hair, why ruin it? How could curly hair be considered beautiful? :? It did not fit her worldview...
When she came to live with me in Austria, I told her she does not need a wig. Having people ask to touch it and admire it did a lot, as it helped her understand that, quite genuinly, her hair is beautiful and nobody hated it. People even told her they would like to have it. It's still a pain to treat it, but by now she only wears wigs as a fashion item, not to hide her hair. And she never complained about anyone wanting to touch her natural hair here.
So my take on it: Appearently young black girls get peer-pressured into thinking their natural, curly hair is ugly, and from there, they either hide it or use products on it. They are ashamed of their hair in it's natural state, and to me, that explains why they would not want anyone to touch it. I might be completely wrong - but as a guy with long hair who had people ask to touch my hair, I wouldn't know what's wrong with that. (Then again, "Your tits look amazing, can I touch them?" is surprisingly similar...)
Netherdan:
The touching without consent is an issue, sure, but there's a bigger issue here and that's everyone is constantly reminding her that she was really integrated to her body that got crushed and it's making her feel like an alien in her new body and generally making her acceptance of it worse with every new interaction of people comenting it.
Should people stop at the "I'm so glad you're okay" it could make her integration go faster than reminding her of said body crushing
Tyr:
--- Quote from: LeeC on 14 Jan 2019, 06:27 ---
<snip1>I don't know why this is a thing. I mean maybe its because I grew up in a diverse area and so I wasn't exposed to this but I have always been taught you don't touch a person unless they invite you to.</snip1>
<snip2> It feels more like Faye is looking upon Anthros like they are hardware and not a person. Which is weird because she does talk to Anthros like they are people and even worries a bit (I mean look at her relationship with Bubbles from start to now). I can see this disconnect causing some friction with her and Bubbs later, if not with some Anthro friends. <snip2>
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Snip1 response: The problem is not strictly interracial and can absolutely come up with transplants from even just another city 30 minutes away. I had a friend who grew up in a city 30 minutes south of the town in which I live. The friend moved north for college, and stayed. I was attending a party at her place after graduation, and she came up behind me silently and started separating my hair for braiding with absolutely zero asking or conversation beforehand. I had grabbed her wrist and dropped to the floor about to throw her over my shoulder onto the ground out of reflex. I have since fallen out with her for reasons unrelated to this story.
Snip2: The problem here, in my opinion, is more Faye doesn't quite grasp 'bodily integration' the way it's being used here. her primary AI interaction in her life has been PINTSIZE. He's chassis-swapped once with ZERO angst after a total parts failure. Momo and Winslow are secondary AI interactions in her life, and they ASKED for their chassis swaps, and considered them upgrades. Winslow's technically swapped three times!
Roko has been put into chassis with better stats on after a total parts failure, and her 'bodily integration' MUST mean that all those improvements are even BETTER because, being tightly integrated, Roko MUST be super aware of how much better she can feel everything, right?
On the other hand... Faye's a bright girl. She should have put this together after seeing Roko freaking faint from seeing her own detached foot.
LeeC:
--- Quote from: Tyr on 14 Jan 2019, 08:50 ---
Snip1 response: The problem is not strictly interracial and can absolutely come up with transplants from even just another city 30 minutes away. I had a friend who grew up in a city 30 minutes south of the town in which I live. The friend moved north for college, and stayed. I was attending a party at her place after graduation, and she came up behind me silently and started separating my hair for braiding with absolutely zero asking or conversation beforehand. I had grabbed her wrist and dropped to the floor about to throw her over my shoulder onto the ground out of reflex. I have since fallen out with her for reasons unrelated to this story.
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You see I still just don't get it. Why is someone just walking up to you and touching your hair. It just boggles my mind that someone would just do that. Its like seeing someone in a grocery store open a milk carton and drink it then put it back (At least The Dude" bought his). Who does that? :psyduck: I probably would have done something similar Tyr.
Thrudd:
Maybe it's just me but is it possible that everyone has been missing the obvious here?
Yes Faye snafu'ed on the not asking bit for sure but it may not have been her words that was the instigator of the panic.
When she was still in the white zone, she was stressed, and after the install she was still very anxious but appreciative.
Now here is my take in what may have happened here.
She displayed some surprise on the emotional hug from Faye but the panic started with the close inspection of her well formed ear.
Remember that it was mentioned this new chassis has an upgraded sensory net and a bit more topological detailing. Nipples and possibly other details?
With more surface sensors that better reflect the sensor map of a human, she may be feeling and responding to things in whole new ways compared to what she was used to.
A close hug, a gentle touch of the ear may be more stimulating than what they were.
We need bagels STAT! ...... What? I'm hungry.
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