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WCDT 21-25 January 2019 (3921-3925)

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Case:

--- Quote from: jwhouk on 23 Jan 2019, 09:22 ---The problem with the amputee theory is that the AI itself was essentially an amputee to begin with. The process is, according to WOG, an AI is created in a creche and a body given to them, if they desire to become an APC. I think the age of the AI probably has a huge effect on how integrated they become with their body - and, in the reverse, how long an AI has developed outside a body as to whether or not they can adapt to a body. For instance, I doubt that Station could "download" himself into an AnthroPC shell without feeling constrained or claustrophobic. That, in fact, may be how Spookybot came to be: a high-level AI didn't have enough computing space at their "home" to remain there, so they built several duplicate APC models that they could "distribute" their AI computing power - essentially their "brains" - over several high-functioning APC's.

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Data-transfer rate between physically disjoint bodies would be a bottleneck, though?

Neko_Ali:

--- Quote from: Castlerook on 23 Jan 2019, 10:04 ---To be fair, its not by Pintsize's choice that he's still in the "classic" AnthroPC chassis. Marten is well aware of the chaos Pintsize could get up to.

Plus, I imagine that every chassis story in the state has a picture of Pintsize with a sign underneath it saying "DO NOT SELL TO THIS AI!"

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Possibly. I've also theorized that Pintsize himself is content with his current chassis as it suits his needs and allows him to get away with things that being in a more humanoid chassis wouldn't. As an observation the more cute and/or child like someone is, the more they can get away with. I suspect some of the more overtly sexually perverse things Pintsize gets up to would get him bounced a lot quicker if he looked more humanoid. Also, the resilient and easily disconnected nature of his body parts is a benefit for his style of 'help' and humor. Where he basically eggs people on to take out frustrations on him physically. He gets dismembered on a regular basis, but because he can just be popped back together, no harm done. When May loses an arm it's a much bigger repair job.

Kincaid:

--- Quote from: Case on 23 Jan 2019, 10:14 ---Data-transfer rate between physically disjoint bodies would be a bottleneck, though?

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You probably wouldn't transfer the raw data (video inputs alone would be massive), just the processed results, which can be significantly smaller. That's the whole point of distributed computing, each node is assigned a task and the results are then sent back and consolidated.

This particular SB node would only need to be transferring back a transcript of the conversation alongside detected emotional cues, and for the most part would make decisions on what to say back locally; if there's data that would alter their responses, a low-bandwidth version of the data that is enough to justify the change would be enough. Once SB is back at their home, they can download all the raw data and use significantly more power to analyze it and determine if anything was "misunderstood" and needs addressing. Hey, the "I need to go get a pedicure" comment could very much be serving the purpose of delaying a response while waiting for results from the other nodes back.

jmsr:

--- Quote from: Neko_Ali on 23 Jan 2019, 09:26 --- The difference being her high degree of bodily integration which seems more akin to a human's than an AI. To her it wasn't a chassis. It was the only body she has ever known.

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This is my read on the situation too.  While Roko probably didn't have any problem moving from the creche to become embodied; once there she became integrated with it to a greater extent than AIs normally do.

As for her discomfort with her body: i'm not trans so i can't speak to that, nor am i an amputee so i can't speak to that, but i have experienced that weird feeling when you think your arm is in one position but when you look at it, it's in another.  Like when your arm is on the armrest of the chair palm-down but it feels like it's palm-up.  I've had that a few times but a few minutes of moving it around and using it while looking at it takes care of that.  It's a damn weird feeling.  Here's hoping that continued use of her body will integrate her, and the feeling will go away like everyone keeps saying.

In any case, here's a wiki page on body integrity dysphoria: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_integrity_dysphoria)

Roborat:

--- Quote from: shanejayell on 23 Jan 2019, 06:56 ---Awww. Tsunderbot.  :-D

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Now you have me wanting to see a Tsunderbot.  I hear they are a popular model in Japan.

And the discussion about Spookyvoice?  I picture a sinister sounding Tara Strong, or maybe Richard Horvitz.

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