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WCDT 21-25 January 2019 (3921-3925)

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Tova:
That is indeed how they roll, but now that this topic has come up, it is entirely possible that they will explain this (or some alternative reasoning to do with "limits the like of us would not understand") in #3923. So the exposition on this topic I originally expected may come after all.

gprimr1:
I believe they can help, but they are smart. While their true motives remain a mystery, their encounter with Bubbles tells me that they may operate from a "We will help you, but we won't do all the work for you" kind of mentality. While they decrypted the locked partition in her memory (and maybe did some shady stuff who knows) they did not alter her programming to erase the memory of the memory or anything. In other words, they helped her, but she still had to do the work of coming to terms with it.

If they say "Yes" to Roko now, then can they really be sure Roko will give 100% in trying to handle this on her own? Or will she phone it in knowing there is an easy way out?

calisthymia:
Long-time lurker here, registered just to say this: it really doesn't require anything other than the "sanctity of mind" principle for Spookybot to find the idea of "fixing" Roko's mind quite offensive. I believe that the comic is referring to an old dilemma commonly discussed by trans people: "if your mind and body don't match, is it more ethical to change the mind or the body?" According to my own observations, a large majority of people (who are facing that dilemma themselves) are of the opinion that it is more ethical to change the body, because if you change the mind in such a way that it becomes congruent with the body then that mind isn't you any more, and that is fundamentally abhorrent.

Tova:
Welcome, new person! That's an interesting perspective. It seems plausible that's what Jeph is going for. It's the first analysis of the current storyline that has seemed so.

A small perverse otter:

--- Quote from: calisthymia on 21 Jan 2019, 22:44 ---Long-time lurker here, registered just to say this: it really doesn't require anything other than the "sanctity of mind" principle for Spookybot to find the idea of "fixing" Roko's mind quite offensive. I believe that the comic is referring to an old dilemma commonly discussed by trans people: "if your mind and body don't match, is it more ethical to change the mind or the body?" According to my own observations, a large majority of people (who are facing that dilemma themselves) are of the opinion that it is more ethical to change the body, because if you change the mind in such a way that it becomes congruent with the body then that mind isn't you any more, and that is fundamentally abhorrent.

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I'm pretty sure that this is right -- Jeph has already generated the call out where somebody asks about someone's genitalia without permission, so I'm thinking that this is going to play with dysphoria.

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