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WCDT Strips 3936-3940 (11-15 February 2019)
BenRG:
FWIW, I think that Renee is a perfect example in QC of a 'normal person'. She can be thoughtless and selfish sometimes. She can cause trouble by acts of nearly-childish mischief. However, in the end, given a choice, she'll always do the right thing by her friends and even acknowledge fault (even if only by muttering it to herself). She's no saint but which of us are?
As with Marten, in some ways, Renee's mundanity is what makes her interesting. She has no glaring non-neurotypical traits and no Deep Dark SecretTM in her past. She is simply an ordinary person with ordinary hang-ups and ordinary flaws. Seeing how that fits into Jeph's increasingly fantastical universe of sentient machines with human-like life issues (and some very non-human ones too) and other remarkable personalities is one of the things that is interesting to see.
Milayna:
--- Quote from: Shjade on 12 Feb 2019, 23:59 ---
--- Quote from: Milayna on 12 Feb 2019, 13:23 ---her track team "friends" had encouraged her, a first year, to go for the top at the competition instead of deferring to the third years, which was apparently a huge faux pas. Then those same "friends" told the third years who were pissed that they had told her to be more respectful, making her look terrible. and leading her to wall herself off.
I couldn't even understand the scene at first, and even after getting the japanese cultural parts explained to me, I still can't figure out "why". I've decided to just shrug and chalk it up to "they decided to bully her, that's just a thing that people do sometimes".
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So the characters in question weren't exactly bullying, or at least not trying to. They were just being spineless: they told the first-year to do her best because they wanted to be encouraging and seem like good, friendly people, but as soon as their encouragement ended up getting them negative feedback from the older students they denied having done it so that they wouldn't have to deal with the consequences of admitting what they'd said.
It's a cultural thing in that specific context, but it's not a phenomenon unique to Japan. Plenty of sycophants around the world.
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Nah, it was bullying. Transcribed from discord:
"Ok, so, there's 3 years in japanese high school. And it's expected that the younger students will let the older ones take the more prestigious positions in clubs/teams and whatnot, both to improve their chances for potential university applications, and also out of respect for seniority. But Hinata's "friends" basically told her to ignore that and go for it, telling her that it would be fine and nobody would care. Turns out that they did care, and it turned her basically into a social pariah. And then, when she expected them to have her back, they basically said to the older girls that it was all her idea and all her fault. So they betrayed her twice over."
Another one:
"Clubs in japan are a huge deal
There's a reason you see them so much in anime
Being in a club is basically required, socially
It's culturally treated as a way to train for your eventual office job
Learning responsibility and how to be an adult
Sports clubs included"
and
"She has an exceptional trait (good at running), and probably made the other girls in her team jealous and such that she'd "flaunt" it
In Japan there's this thing with competitions where the final year of their teams is a very damn big event
So crashing it like that by taking advantage of her naivete is colossally dickish"
Gyrre:
--- Quote from: Scarlet Manuka on 11 Feb 2019, 23:04 ---
--- Quote from: Shjade on 11 Feb 2019, 22:03 ---I'm not sure "being an asshole comes naturally to him" is the improvement over "deliberately being an asshole" you seem to be suggesting it is here. xD
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If the effects are the same, surely "no particular intent" is preferable to "deliberately trying to be an asshole"? At the very least, there's more hope that they can be trained out of it.
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I'll probably have some nay-sayers here, but I would argue that there are those people to whom one simply must be an asshole to in order to get one's point across. Though, this is largely situational.
'{S}imply must' as in 'there is no other way to go about', not as in 'it is the most natural and/or expected response'. Though, there are also those people for whom the latter also applies.
EDIT: Had to change the bracket type around the upper-cased 's' to get rid of the strikethrough.
gprimr1:
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Theta9:
--- Quote from: eschaton on 11 Feb 2019, 07:04 ---Keep in mind that Angus and Renee dated, and they didn't break up on good terms.
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Wait, what?
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