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WCDT Strips 3976-3980 (April 8th-12th, 2019)

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traroth:

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--- Quote from: Mr Intrepid on 07 Apr 2019, 19:48 ---And I like the red in her eye.

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Oh good. I'm not the only one who perceived Dora's eyes to be two different colors.

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I tried a joke by saying that she's not "baseline", which was a reference to Alice Grove (who also had red eyes in some circumstances), but nobody seemed to get it...

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Check the number of likes on that post.

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Ok, one person got it. ;-)

Tova:

--- Quote from: Castlerook on 09 Apr 2019, 06:10 ---Marten needs someone to light a fire under his ass, because he won't do it himself.

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Doing anything because someone lit a fire under your arse is the exact opposite of taking responsibility for yourself. It's someone else taking responsibility. It's passive obedience. That's what I'm trying to say.

You say he won't do it himself, but that's the very thing that needs to change. He needs to do it himself, for himself. That's the only thing that will produce lasting change.

TheEvilDog:
Yes, its the thing about Marten that he needs to change.

But he won't.

Marten won't ever change a thing about himself, because he's never been put into a situation where he has to examine himself. Faye has had to look at herself time and again because it got to the point where she has almost died twice (the accident before the comic started and the alcohol poisoning). Dora had to examine her own life when she realised she was actively sabotaging her own life time and again.

Marten has never been in that position. He's pretty much the guy whose entire life has been relatively uneventful (in the sense that he has never been put into hospital or gone into therapy).

Its always been an external factor that has changed Marten's life, never his own decision. And Marten is just too chill to think to himself that he needs to make some change in his life.

Tova:
Well, if that's what your crystal ball tells you. What can I say? If he never does, he never does.

But I daresay that he will at some point be put into a situation where introspection is called for, he makes a realisation, and the fire will be lit.


--- Quote from: Castlerook on 09 Apr 2019, 13:59 ---Its always been an external factor that has changed Marten's life, never his own decision.

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Yes, that is exactly what I am saying. Exactly. He's still passive. Why are you calling for another external factor as though it will be different this time? One more time. It has to be his own decision.

oddtail:
Yeah, Marten being coerced or talked into doing something would not be actual character growth regardless of what "something" might be. It's happened before. It'd be just business as usual, and would not solve his fundamental issues.

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