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WCDT Strips 4006-4010 (20th-25th May, 2019)
Democratus:
--- Quote from: dutchrvl on 22 May 2019, 11:29 ---
--- Quote from: Democratus on 22 May 2019, 10:01 ---A friendship isn't a hostage negotiation. You can't call someone off-limits for your friends just because you are also interested. That is a slippery slope that results in more damage.
Pursue who you like. If someone else who likes them is also your friend - they will be happy for you if you succeed.
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Thank you for your comment, but I think you might be misreading my point. I am not talking about someone (e.g. Momo) calling someone offlimits for their friends.
I'm talking about e.g. Momo feeling hurt, even if she can rationalize that she shouldn't and can pretend to May that she's fine with it.
Of course you could say: "well my friend may feel hurt if I choose to bang this person she has a crush on, but tough luck for her because I simply want to bang that person once anyway", but I'd like to believe that most people would at least consider their friends feelings before doing so.
As I said, if no particular feelings of your own are involved with banging that person (besides lust), is it then worth potentially hurting your friend's feelings?
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If that person was my friend, they would be happy I found a moment of intimacy with someone. If they were instead hurt or eaten up by jealousy then we would need to discuss one of two things: 1) How good of a friend are they really? 2) Is this due to some trauma they suffered elsewhere - and how can they get treatment for it.
Work on the root of the issue, not the symptom.
I've been in this situation as "the friend" a few times before - and when I was told about it, I just said "Details, please!" :)
Morituri:
Well, I saw the hookup coming from three strips back.
Gotta admit though, the watermelon and the oven mitt are surprises. Points for creativity!
TheEvilDog:
--- Quote from: Democratus on 22 May 2019, 12:27 ---If that person was my friend, they would be happy I found a moment of intimacy with someone. If they were instead hurt or eaten up by jealousy then we would need to discuss one of two things: 1) How good of a friend are they really? 2) Is this due to some trauma they suffered elsewhere - and how can they get treatment for it.
Work on the root of the issue, not the symptom.
I've been in this situation as "the friend" a few times before - and when I was told about it, I just said "Details, please!" :)
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Friendship doesn't work like that.
Yes, you would think "Hey, my friend should be happy that I hooked up with someone and got to partake in a unique experience". But on the other hand, you can't predict how someone is going to react. Especially someone like Momo. Momo is opinionated, she's particularly concerned about Human-AI relationships and how the actions of one can have a negative impact on the perception from Humanity, for example, Bubbles' service in the armed forces.
But if you scratch the surface, Momo, despite all the contact she has had with the likes of Pintsize, Tai, Marten, Bubbles, Faye and Marigold, is still somewhat sheltered. In essence, Momo is still that AI that we saw in the chassis, but without the emotional development that others have had. Pintsize is a troll, but does so to provoke Marten to get his thumb out of his ass because he knows that if he didn't, Marten would just stay home all the time. Bubbles has undergone severe psychological trauma and loss, but has managed to build herself back up and entered into a healthy relationship. Likewise, Winslow has become more aware of his privilege but is also that he can do something worthwhile now in his role as a companion to Hanners. But looks at Momo. Yes, she's gotten a new chassis, a job, but she hasn't had much development in other areas. May having sex with Sven, regardless of whatever or not Momo still has a crush on him, is still something major in terms of Human-AI relations. You don't know how she can react. And you can't have an arbitrary "she's either happy for me or she's not my friend."
Shremedy:
--- Quote from: Drunken Old Man on 22 May 2019, 05:57 ---
--- Quote from: hakko504 on 22 May 2019, 05:44 ---The censor banners really makes things much more dirty than the uncensored version posted on patreon. Not that the patreon version doesn't raise a lot of other questions.
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Perhaps Jeph is making an ironic point about censorship?
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I like how youtube videogaming (Skyrim & Fallout) reactor MxR labels such boxes as "SQUARE OF FAMILY FRIENDLINESS"
Case:
--- Quote from: Democratus on 22 May 2019, 12:27 ---
--- Quote from: dutchrvl on 22 May 2019, 11:29 ---
--- Quote from: Democratus on 22 May 2019, 10:01 ---A friendship isn't a hostage negotiation. You can't call someone off-limits for your friends just because you are also interested. That is a slippery slope that results in more damage.
Pursue who you like. If someone else who likes them is also your friend - they will be happy for you if you succeed.
--- End quote ---
Thank you for your comment, but I think you might be misreading my point. I am not talking about someone (e.g. Momo) calling someone offlimits for their friends.
I'm talking about e.g. Momo feeling hurt, even if she can rationalize that she shouldn't and can pretend to May that she's fine with it.
Of course you could say: "well my friend may feel hurt if I choose to bang this person she has a crush on, but tough luck for her because I simply want to bang that person once anyway", but I'd like to believe that most people would at least consider their friends feelings before doing so.
As I said, if no particular feelings of your own are involved with banging that person (besides lust), is it then worth potentially hurting your friend's feelings?
--- End quote ---
If that person was my friend, they would be happy I found a moment of intimacy with someone. If they were instead hurt or eaten up by jealousy then we would need to discuss one of two things: 1) How good of a friend are they really? 2) Is this due to some trauma they suffered elsewhere - and how can they get treatment for it.
Work on the root of the issue, not the symptom.
I've been in this situation as "the friend" a few times before - and when I was told about it, I just said "Details, please!" :)
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So ... you cannot possibly hurt a friend's feelings by indulging your desires, since, by definition, everybody who might feel hurt by your indulging your desires is either not your friend, or the problem lies with them/a hurt not caused by you?
Neat.
--- Quote from: dutchrvl on 22 May 2019, 11:29 ---As I said, if no particular feelings of your own are involved with banging that person (besides lust), is it then worth potentially hurting your friend's feelings?
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Consummating your lust might spark a deep, lasting relationship. The situation would then no longer be appropriately described by your framing of "only lust" vs. "friendship".
Happens rather frequently, or so I've heard ...
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