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WCDT strips 4021-4025 (10th to 14th June 2019)
SeaWoodStage:
I’ve never liked May (although I’ve tried to), and this is largely why. She’s ridiculously self-centred.
I get that she made a mistake, and has been bearing the consequences since then. I’d go so far as to say that they’re probably unfair consequences, because she seems to have been left to fend for herself with rather basic amenities and no official emotional support.
Since then, however, she’s been offered support, kindness and friendship from several avenues, and has shown a habit of either throwing it back in the face of those who offer, or taking beneficial arrangements for granted.
May seems to have a naturally abrasive personality, which some people do. But she’s got such a massive chip on her shoulder that it’s bigger than anything else about her. I do in fact agree with Momo’s eventual analysis of the Sven situation, and think that May and Sven had every right to hook up with each other. I can also sympathise with May’s initial reaction to Roko’s new chassis, because she’s presumably still feeling raw and defensive after the unresolved situation with Momo.
However, when Roko said this wasn’t something she wanted, and that she had in fact gone through a massively traumatic experience recently, May’s first reaction was to turn it back on herself, and take yet another opportunity to bemoan her own less than perfect situation.
Bad things happen to everyone, and that includes horrible people. I’m not saying that May is without positives, but she seems pretty horrible to me.
OldGoat:
--- Quote from: BenRG on 10 Jun 2019, 07:45 ---FWIW, I agree with those who said that May would reject a gift chassis on the grounds of pride and fear of being under obligation to anyone.
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I could happen that way, but that will depend entirely on where May is on the introspection spectrum. With her impulse control issues, pride and fear of obligation are likely to be afterthoughts.
"A fully functional anatomically correct body! You'd better have your pants off by the time I'm done booting up, Clownboy!" To be followed later by, "Am I obliged to work it off by boning him whenever he wants?"
Or it may happen earlier and Jeph may use it as an indicator that she's turned that particular corner.
At any rate, as much of an asshole has Sven's been most of his life, he deserves to be in love with a prickly, sarcastic robosexpot as pennance.
SeaWoodStage:
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 10 Jun 2019, 08:44 ---Welcome, new people!
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One thing that scares me here is that May's tendency to lash out and assume the worst may hurt her in ways that are hard to fix. On prisontalk.com, the fraction of posters who have re-established themselves in society after parole say the only way to succeed is to let go of victim mentality. Nothing easy about that, of course, when someone has been treated as unfairly as the criminal justice system treats people, but if May needs to do that work in order to succeed I want her to succeed.
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My brother was in and out of prison from his teens to his late twenties, and he'd agree with that. (He now has a job that comes with a home, and is okay.) He does tend to lash out at those closest to him, which is something he certainly shares with May. He also tends to take advantage of people, something that May also does, I think. Where he differs from May, though, is that he's lost that chip on his shoulder. He owns his mistakes, and has moved on as best he can with the consequences of those mistakes. He's built a life for himself from grit, personality and talent, and has also made some effort to repair the close relationships he had with family and friends.
As an aside, nobody in our immediate family judges my brother anymore for the crimes which imprisoned him years ago (none of which were violent). The relationships he damaged were due to him being a selfish, arrogant, thoughtless jerk. (That was a trait that was sometimes evident in his crimes.)
Is it cold in here?:
So if May and Sven start a regular relationship, and if Sven buys her a new body, is that a friend being generous to a friend or is it sex work? How will May see it?
SmilingCat:
--- Quote from: Tova on 10 Jun 2019, 02:09 ---What makes you think I object to the word?
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It's the only thing I can think of that would explain why you wouldn't use it in this case.
If you don't think I understand what May would be going through, well...
I've been fighting against depression since I was a kid, most of the time it manifested as me angrily lashing out at people around me for very sketchy reasons (never violently, May's behavior is pretty typical for how I would behave). This cost me at least three jobs, poisoned my relationships, it made me an ugly person. It took years of therapy and medication (still on the medication, probably will be for the rest of my life) to even get close to what might be called an even keel, and it's still a struggle from day to day.
And just as I'm finally getting to a place emotionally where I can start putting my life back together... my body starts giving out. I'm physically disabled. I haven't been able to work in six years. I lost a kidney four years ago (which put further strain on my weak heart and nervous system). If I could afford to live alone financially, I'm still dependent on other people for help. None of this will ever get better for me. My heart is not going to fix itself. My nervous system isn't going to start doing its job properly, my kidney isn't coming back (but he had to go get cancer, so fuck that guy, am I right?). And I certainly can't go undo the things I screwed up in my past that would have allowed me to ride out my disability in the present.
But May is being a jerk, and I know that, because I managed to become an expert on being a jerk, because of all those years I spent being a jerk, and those times when I continue to be a jerk. Because emotional health is a process, it's not binary, and part of getting better is acknowledging when you're failing at it and need to do better.
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