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WCDT strips 4061-4065 (5-9 August 2019)

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brasca:

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--- Quote from: brasca on 05 Aug 2019, 08:45 ---Great.  This is shaping up to be another argument as to who is terrible.  Hannelore for taking Winslow on her journey or Winslow for not appreciating the experience  :roll:

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I don't think its even about Winslow not appreciating the impact it's had on Hannelore. Just that by focusing so much on the bad, Winslow has missed so much on the good. Yeah, you're always going to have bad experiences when you travel, but you can't let them alone colour the whole experience. Worst time I ever had travelling was when I was stuck on an overnight ferry crossing caught in a storm. That was basically 12 hours vomiting, but by the same token, during that trip I got to see Snowdonia National Park covered in fog from partway up Mount Snowdon. 12 hours puking versus a spectacular view that could be imagined as something primordial? No contest.

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Agree to disagree, I guess? If I knew in advance I'd have to puke for 12 hours to see something, I just *might* pass on seeing the frickin' Island of Atlantis, moreso any view that exists in the real world.

Some people just don't enjoy travelling at all, being intensely uncomfortable not because of the specifics, but because of the fact of travelling alone. I ain't saying Winslow is like that, because he does seem to complain about specific bad things that happened, but it's possible that he isn't wired* for that kind of stuff.

I generally tend to think that if someone doesn't appreciate something (anything, really), insisting that they're just missing the good stuff is failure to appreciate a different perspective. People have tried to guilt me into "enjoying" things on enough occasions that I appreciate Winslow's attitude, even if I see how it can limit his life experience. I don't think anyone has an obligation to expand their horizons, to have "fun" doing any specific thing, or to appreciate anything.

(I do see the potential for the discussion devolving into arguing "who is bad here". I'm just pointing out that Winslow isn't hurting anyone by "not appreciating" being out of his home or out of his comfort zone.)

Incidentally, I wonder how Hannelore missed it if Winslow was as intensely uncomfortable with the travels as the comic seems to imply he was.

* - I wonder if that particular expression carries some baggage in QC's world, what with sapient machines existing and the like.

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Probably because she was concentrating on not freaking out while pushing herself to the limits which undoubtedly leads to the accusation that Hannelore should be more sensitive even though Winslow never objected.  Winslow is his own person and could have declined to go on this adventure, but he didn't.  So then the accusation is that Hannelore should've known Winslow would be too loyal to object and should've employed someone else.  Of course if she did Winslow would probably feel bad about being left out which would inevitably lead to accusations that she presumed to know Winslow's feelings and acted without his consent.  And then we have Winslow.  He stuck it out.  He was with Hannelore the whole time and he didn't enjoy it.  He is entitled to his opinion too. 

TheEvilDog:
Except Winslow isn't expressing that opinion, he's shutting down and not engaging with Hanners.

brasca:
Hannelore isn’t a mind reader.

TheEvilDog:
Of course she isn't, but Winslow isn't saying a word, he's just looking at the pigeons outside. And it looks like that might be all he's planning on doing.

Hanners is going to have to talk to Winslow sooner, rather than later, but if he's just going to be looking at pigeons, well there's a limit to how much Hanners or anyone might be able to.

Chalksoul:
For me it all seem very weird. A day or two after a long trip taking some time to relax and rewind seem.. healthy? That what I would do and recommend friends to do. And when looking out the window he has a big genuine smile.

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