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Theta9:

--- Quote from: Castlerook on 02 Sep 2019, 18:47 ---But Garth Ennis is a writer who uses his work to unload what he has to say about society....
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Isn't that kind of what writers do?

Sure The Boys and Preacher are over the top, but I enjoyed the stories. And while I do enjoy traditional superhero stories, I don't have any particular reverence for the genre, and I thought The Boys an interesting exploration of what superpowered people might do if they didn't think anybody would tell them boo. Then again, maybe I just have no taste.   :-\

The name Mark Millar is unknown to me, so I figured it was a mistyping of Miller.

TheEvilDog:

--- Quote from: Theta9 on 03 Sep 2019, 17:24 ---
--- Quote from: Castlerook on 02 Sep 2019, 18:47 ---But Garth Ennis is a writer who uses his work to unload what he has to say about society....
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Isn't that kind of what writers do?

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Yes, but a good writer is able to do it in a subtle manner and can do so in such a way that you need to think about it. The best ones are ones where the realisation hits you like a bolt from the blue.

Garth Ennis is not a good writer. Garth Ennis screams his views in such a way that I'm quite sure that a screaming chimp smearing their own faeces on a wall would pause and tell him to calm down.

He has nothing but contempt and hatred for the readers of his work, oftentimes insulting them. And that contempt for the medium he writes in bleeds through with every word he writes. Its rather telling that the last award he won was in 1999. And sure, some of his work might have won acclaim, but its also a degree of bile fascination. He doesn't write great stories, he spews vitriol and that's what draws people to him.

As for Mark Millar, he just doesn't understand the characters he writes. One key story a lot of people point to about Millar's inability to understand character is in Ultimate Marvel and an infamous line from Captain America - bear in mind that Ultimate Captain America was a racist, sexist and xenophobic man from the 1940s - in the middle of a tirade, points to the A on his mask and says "Do you think this letter on my head stands for France?". Stereotypes about the French aside, whatever might have been said about the French military, the Allies had nothing but respect for the French Resistance and their actions during the war. And Millar can't get that. He has written Ultimate Steve Rogers as a dickhead/asshole and has gone out of his way to insult one of America's oldest allies. But the point is that Millar doesn't do research, he just doesn't care for it and he doesn't care who might be insulted.

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