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WCDT 4111-4115 (October 14th-18th, 2019)
BenRG:
Okay, Roko seriously needs professional help. The way she was talking there made me think that she was having difficulty accessing parts of her own system and that could put her in serious danger. What if she lost control of her limbs or her senses? She could easily be in a situation where she couldn't even get help!
That said, basically, that was a hard reset, just without a paperclip, wasn't it?
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 13 Oct 2019, 22:31 ---Spookybot's ethics intrigue me. Changing someone's mind is apparently an absolute limit to them, even with informed consent which makes medical procedures up to risky and irreversible surgery considered ethical.
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It's my feeling that, to Spookybot, the mind is the thing that is most indivisibly and unequivocally 'you'. It is where our awareness resides, after all, the thing that we really are. To alter the mind is to alter the essence of a person; arguably to alter the closest thing science is able to identify to a 'soul'.
Carl-E:
I dunno, their eminence seems to be pretty much in character here.
But my eye was drawn to the picture on the wall, of what seems to be... a younger Roko?
Maybe it's just a trick of the way it's drawn as background, but it brought to mind the whole created lifetime memories thing from Blade Runner. After all, QC's AIs know they're AIs, and don't need a manufactured past. So it's probably just an important memory to Roko, it looks like a touristy shot.
But it may well become an important memento to her in another way - a memory of her old original body, a happier time before the accident.
I wonder what she sees when she looks at it...
awkwardness:
--- Quote from: BenRG on 13 Oct 2019, 23:27 ---It's my feeling that, to Spookybot, the mind is the thing that is most indivisibly and unequivocally 'you'. It is where our awareness resides, after all, the thing that we really are. To alter the mind is to alter the essence of a person; arguably to alter the closest thing science is able to identify to a 'soul'.
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Which is why this is so important to them, they have a line that they will only ever cross under dire circumstances and even then they had to be dragged over it to save someone from a major issue that was caused by someone else harming them. They would likely help Roko, but only if there was no alternative. Melon might be the only being who could save Roko, with Yay guiding her
TheEvilDog:
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 13 Oct 2019, 22:31 ---Spookybot's ethics intrigue me. Changing someone's mind is apparently an absolute limit to them, even with informed consent which makes medical procedures up to risky and irreversible surgery considered ethical.
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Considering that AI bodies, while necessary for their interaction with the real world, aren't the be all and end all for them that it would be for a human. Their minds would be the key part. Therefore, Spooky's ethical limits might be seen as something similar to the Hippocratic Oath, specifically "First, do no harm."
If you look at the Hippocratic Oath in its' entirety, you'll see there are other limitations, such as; "I will not use the knife, not even, verily, on sufferers from stone, but I will give place to such as are craftsmen therein." That specifically refers to the calculi (stones that form in various organs) and their removal was something that would only be done by specialists.
So while Spookybot might be able to power down Roko, along with a host of other abilities, they know that Roko's treatment is beyond their purview and that they might do more harm than good.
Wingy:
--- Quote from: Carl-E on 14 Oct 2019, 00:56 ---But my eye was drawn to the picture on the wall, of what seems to be... a younger Roko?
Maybe it's just a trick of the way it's drawn as background, but it brought to mind the whole created lifetime memories thing from Blade Runner. After all, QC's AIs know they're AIs, and don't need a manufactured past. So it's probably just an important memory to Roko, it looks like a touristy shot.
But it may well become an important memento to her in another way - a memory of her old original body, a happier time before the accident.
I wonder what she sees when she looks at it...
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It might also just be up there as a conversation starter. Roko does entertain after all.
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