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WCDT 4111-4115 (October 14th-18th, 2019)
Thrillho:
One of my partners has PTSD, which sometimes manifests as dissociative seizures. They are absolutely terrifying even when not that severe.
I felt like this comic captured that mood perfectly. I felt a tightening in my chest during it, and I'm not usually that invested in this comic. Great work, Jeph.
cybersmurf:
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--- Quote from: shanejayell on 13 Oct 2019, 19:10 ---One wonders if 'fixing' Roko would have cascading effects. Otherwise I'd think Spooky would do it...
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I would imagine that its not the potential for a cascading aftereffect, its more the fact that Spooky doesn't like messing with the heads of other AI, in effect performing mental control on them. They like the concept of free will and as much as they could fix Roko, "fixing" her would be anathema of free will.
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The way I see it, Spookybot/Yay don't have a lot of ethics cose they adhere to, since they are extremely powerful. But what seems to be their Prime Directive: unadulterated freedom of mind, and "fixing" Roko - while being quite possible - would need to rewrite some of her personality routines, or parts connected.
I think the reason they helped Bubbles in the first place was to undo, to liberate her from her metaphorical chains - both CW's and her own.
Somebody:
The problem here, for me, is that Jeph has set up a situation he can't really resolve in many ways, because an integration problem between Roko's mind & processor and her body could very easily be a problem in the levels between - i.e., driver problems and suchlikenot, not unlike Momo being temporarily unable to control her face when she first loaded into her current body. But that was a brief gag, and this is a serious allegory for major mental conditions, so he can't even raise the possibility that it could be simply fixed without major mental surgery, let alone fix it that way....
TheEvilDog:
--- Quote from: Somebody on 14 Oct 2019, 18:38 ---The problem here, for me, is that Jeph has set up a situation he can't really resolve in many ways, because an integration problem between Roko's mind & processor and her body could very easily be a problem in the levels between - i.e., driver problems and suchlikenot, not unlike Momo being temporarily unable to control her face when she first loaded into her current body. But that was a brief gag, and this is a serious allegory for major mental conditions, so he can't even raise the possibility that it could be simply fixed without major mental surgery, let alone fix it that way....
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You can't really compare what happened to Momo to what happened to Roko. In the case of the former, that was bad registries and storing too much hentai for Marigold, fixed with a quick check up. In Roko's case, that was a severe traumatic experience, almost akin to the sudden amputation of a limb for us. Roko might have a new chassis, but it still doesn't change the fact that she went through a traumatic experience, one that she hasn't been able to cope with. Just like if someone gets a severed limb reattached, they can feel like the limb isn't theirs anymore.
Who said that Roko's situation is going to get resolved other than it might not? There's the distinct possibility that she will never be able to get over this. The story could be setting up Roko's realisation that she will never be able to cope with this, that it might be permanent.
shanejayell:
New comic up. Jeph's been reading our forum posts, I see.
(Or his Patreon responses were similar.)
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