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WCDT Strips 4151-4155 (9-13 December2019)

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Cornelius:
But then, I doubt that were your two only posts.

Cornelius:
More to the point, if we need a poll, it could, inspired by today's comic, be on romcom tropes? Just a suggestion.

BenRG:
I'm pretty sure that Jeph actually does read the various forums dedicated to his works (or at least has reliable people pass on to him where the debate is going). Because of this, I'm fairly sure that today's strip is a deliberate push-back to those who criticised Claire for trying to motivate Marten to change gears and be more active in looking for a future. Today's strip basically seems to be saying that, yes, Marten actually thinks she's right and, also, the idea of the two of them having a rage quit over it would work for a pair of teenage lovers but not for a pair of pretty sensible postgrad adults (who appear to be watching the headlights of the oncoming future with a degree of trepidation).

In fact I really approve of Jeph for saying: "You know, not everything has to be a cookie-cutter 'conflict-negative consequences-aftershocks-resolution' chain. Things can go differently if the people involved want it to go that way!" Looking purely from an in-universe perspective, Marten has already been though a chain like that with his break-up with Dora and his love life before he realised that he was attracted to Claire. Given how low he got during that, I can well understand why he'd be looking to avoid going down that path ever again.

@Blackest Duct Tape,

Friend, I, like you, do not like some of Jeph's politics. However, making an account and posting to tell him how much it sucks with a specific and venomous section about how Claireten has to be a 'special case' really, really isn't a good look. I just wonder if you'd be so upset about Marten and Claire working so hard on their relationship if Claire was cis?

Cornelius:

--- Quote from: Blackest Duct Tape on 08 Dec 2019, 23:46 ---
Really,  where do you get off assigning thoughts and opinions to a complete stranger?   You completely made up a narrative in your own mind about my thoughts and motivations,  designated it as "actual reality" and posted it to the forum for a reaction. 
 

--- End quote ---

That is exactly what I thought about your last post. You might want to reread everything you posted, and the reactions to that.

Tova:
Hi Blackest Duct Tape,

I'd like to briefly respond to what seems to be the core of your post, before making an overall remark.


--- Quote from: Blackest Duct Tape on 08 Dec 2019, 21:56 ---Jeph had to write himself into a corner.   He cannot possibly do anything to shake up this relationship ...
--- End quote ---

I guess what you are essentially saying is that there is a perception that Marten and Claire have a plot shield.

While it is true that Jeph is very attached to Claire, as are many of his readers, I think that it is still entirely possible that Claire and Marten might have to deal with some difficulties, treated in such a way that is true to the experiences of his audiences. I don't think he would lose readers if he did this. He would be doing his fans a disservice to permanently assign them happily-ever-after status.

IMO the real issue with Marten and Claire is simply that very little comic time is currently devoted to them. Thus their story moves at snail's pace.

Don't write off the possibility of a shake-up.

My overall suggestion, which is made with the best of intentions. If you want to launch a criticism that someone else cannot tolerate dissenting opinions, then you had best deal with criticism aimed at your own posts with a great deal more grace than you have so far demonstrated.

Peace.

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