Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCDT 4166-4170 (Dec 30th, 2019 to Jan 3rdb 2020)
Loki:
--- Quote from: Tova on 04 Jan 2020, 14:00 ---Is this a "Do you like Claire?" litmus test we're looking at right now?
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Nah, I like Claire, mostly. If anything, I am arguing that Marten did wrong here.
First of, I don't care about the online banking stuff for the reasons mentioned. I am on about messages in particular.
I find letting people look through your messages/have access to your phone an icky thing for two reasons in this situation:
a) It is unclear to me if Marten allowed Claire to access his phone or if he just doesn't have a pass code set and she is using it willy-nilly (in that regard, my original reply could have been better worded). If that is so, that's really not kosher of Claire, and negligent of Marten.
b) If he agreed to it without reading the message, I consider that betraying the trust of whoever sent it. It is somewhat different if he read it first and then went "ugh, my head, you go reply to that", although there is still no reason why Claire would have to use his phone for that - I assume they all have each other's phone numbers by now.
If I was in the sender's shoes and received such a text from someone else than the intended recipient, the least it would trigger would be a discussion along the lines of "does your partner read all the messages I send to you?" Making people wonder that is really not kind, although it can be forgiven (particularly if Marten is not thinking straight due to hangover).
Needless to say, I don't even give my partners access to my phone, and I feel icky when I have to use my girlfriend's phone, because sometimes notifications and partial messages pop up while I am using it, and I would really rather not read those.
Tova:
Okay. That is not what I was expecting. The "yet he fought with Dora over her snooping through his computer" thing seems to have been a total red herring, so I'll just forget about it.
In these kinds of scenarios, I am always guided by the reactions of the characters.
Dora didn't even blink. They are all close enough friends that I would conclude that each of them was comfortable with it, and was confident the others would be.
TLDR If none of them is bothered, neither am I.
Is it cold in here?:
It's always worth thinking about consent issues, though.
Marten may have said yes but we didn't see that happen. On the other hand, doesn't everyone have a passcode these days? So for Claire to use the phone Marten likely authorized her.
It's less personal than a porn collection, but still personal, to be on a screen that shows somebody's text history.
Ah yes, just what we do best here, overanalysis!
Tova:
It's true that we didn't see Marten consent.
If we see Marten remotely bothered about it in a future comic, then I'll eat my words. And my hat.
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