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WCDT strips 4231-4235 (30th of March to 3rd April, 2020)
Tova:
--- Quote from: dreed on 01 Apr 2020, 07:41 ---
--- Quote from: BenRG on 31 Mar 2020, 23:20 ---
Jeph noted that Elliot actually came close to death when he came up behind Yay in panel 2.
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I so don't get the joke. Someone saying hi to you might result in body harm.
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I can see what Jeph was probably going for, but I don't really believe it as it is written.
As far as I can make out, Jeph wants us to believe that Yay is a dreadfully dangerous and almost-omnipotent hive mind with very few ethical boundaries. Even though I don't think we've really seen a hint of them behaving in a way we would find unethical*, except perhaps in torturing Corpse Witch, someone who crossed one of those few ethical boundaries.
Would such a powerful being be startled by someone walking up behind them, even as large as Elliot? Even a being with limitations we can't hope to understand? That seems highly unlikely. And even if they were startled, would Yay wantonly kill? Sure, they've got no ethical boundary to prevent them, but would they be motivated to? The only real motivation we've seen from Yay recently is to be likable.
I just don't buy it. Frankly, I don't see Yay doing anything that might make them dislikable in the eyes of the QC audience.
There is an amusing thought lying underneath it -- Elliot normally startles people, but this time he has unknowingly sneaked up on an ominpotent being. Ha! I think that's what Jeph was getting it.
But I don't believe for a moment that there was any actual danger.
* Unless I've forgotten something. QC archeologists, activate!
TorporChambre:
--- Quote from: Tova on 01 Apr 2020, 16:47 ---Would such a powerful being be startled by someone walking up behind them, even as large as Elliot?
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Wouldn't such a gentle being be worried about startling someone by walking up behind them, even as powerful as messieurs?;
--- Quote from: Dolphin Jack on 01 Apr 2020, 04:25 ---for some reason, today's comic (not counting the last panel) makes me *ouch* (sorry if it's incomprehensible, I have weird synesthesia, and bad with word stuff.)
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his effecting environ's nightine graity, his curt whimsy.
He, like his father before him, and his father before him, from whom had been inherited, hadn't the training to understand, his raison d'etre, beknownst, now, to only the collectors for his creditors.
--- Quote from: Thrudd on 01 Apr 2020, 13:00 ---awkward intensifying, Brun, tired, arms around ``like you both, kiss me (dammit).''
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Clinton's tacit grand-normalcy esteem, tolerately distasting strangeties, cautiously integrative; insisting exclusivity (polyamorwardan reluctance) into that intimate triple.
:claireface:
jmucchiello:
I just noticed the Chekhov's Skunk tag. Where did we see the skunk before?
--- Quote from: Theta9 on 31 Mar 2020, 13:34 ---Also I stole it ("...if you'll pardon my French") from Neil Gaiman, who used it in the story "Keepsakes and Treasures" (in the collection Fragile Things).
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You attribute a saying said for several centuries to Neil Gaiman? He isn't that old. :)
Tova:
--- Quote from: TorporChambre on 01 Apr 2020, 18:27 ---Wouldn't such a gentle being be worried about startling someone by walking up behind them, even as powerful as messieurs?;
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Elliot? Of course, he would.
--- Quote from: jmucchiello on 01 Apr 2020, 20:47 ---I just noticed the Chekhov's Skunk tag. Where did we see the skunk before?
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We didn't see it before, but it was referenced in an earlier conversation.
--- Quote from: jmucchiello on 01 Apr 2020, 20:47 ---
--- Quote from: Theta9 on 31 Mar 2020, 13:34 ---Also I stole it ("...if you'll pardon my French") from Neil Gaiman, who used it in the story "Keepsakes and Treasures" (in the collection Fragile Things).
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You attribute a saying said for the several centuries to Neil Gaiman? He isn't that old. :)
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The poster was attributing to Gaiman the subversion of the phrase through its literal use, not the phrase itself. Also, he's not saying Gaiman was the first to use the phrase in that way, just that Gaiman was the person the poster stole that specific usage of the phrase from.
*breathes*
Gyrre:
--- Quote from: Tova on 01 Apr 2020, 16:47 ---
--- Quote from: dreed on 01 Apr 2020, 07:41 ---
--- Quote from: BenRG on 31 Mar 2020, 23:20 ---
Jeph noted that Elliot actually came close to death when he came up behind Yay in panel 2.
--- End quote ---
I so don't get the joke. Someone saying hi to you might result in body harm.
--- End quote ---
I can see what Jeph was probably going for, but I don't really believe it as it is written.
As far as I can make out, Jeph wants us to believe that Yay is a dreadfully dangerous and almost-omnipotent hive mind with very few ethical boundaries. Even though I don't think we've really seen a hint of them behaving in a way we would find unethical*, except perhaps in torturing Corpse Witch, someone who crossed one of those few ethical boundaries.
Would such a powerful being be startled by someone walking up behind them, even as large as Elliot? Even a being with limitations we can't hope to understand? That seems highly unlikely. And even if they were startled, would Yay wantonly kill? Sure, they've got no ethical boundary to prevent them, but would they be motivated to? The only real motivation we've seen from Yay recently is to be likable.
I just don't buy it. Frankly, I don't see Yay doing anything that might make them dislikable in the eyes of the QC audience.
There is an amusing thought lying underneath it -- Elliot normally startles people, but this time he has unknowingly sneaked up on an ominpotent being. Ha! I think that's what Jeph was getting it.
But I don't believe for a moment that there was any actual danger.
* Unless I've forgotten something. QC archeologists, activate!
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But most of that has been very specific to their interactions with Roko, the AI they were explicitly trying to befriend.
When Spookybot/Yay was first introduced, they rendered everyone they deemed unimportant in CoD unconscious.
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