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WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)

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Tova:

--- Quote from: Thrillho on 20 Apr 2020, 08:49 ---The thing is the bones of the last bit of your argument there don't necessarily work.

The fact that harm was no caused does not mean that it is not potentially harm causing behaviour, regardless of what we're talking about.

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By "potentially harm causing", do you mean that someone else in Brun's place would have been harmed and thus it was rude, or that it had the potential to lead to harmful behaviour?

Because I argue that the first is not the case, and the second is awfully broad.

Tova:
Okay, I have a further question.

Is "rude" just subjective? Or can there be objective rudeness?

Thrillho:
Rude is absolutely subjective.

Tova:
Okay. I won't argue any further with your subjective viewpoint. I think we understand each others' points of view.

jesslc:
Kind of late to the discussion but as a woman reading this thread, I can't help wondering if those thinking Jeph is wrong for saying "Don't ask strangers for their number" are men...

Because based on my life experiences as a woman, I completely agree with Jeph's comment and with these posts:
 
--- Quote from: sitnspin on 19 Apr 2020, 09:19 ---
--- Quote from: Autistic Vulture on 19 Apr 2020, 09:02 ---Clinton did it right.  Giving your number to someone causes much less awkwardness than asking for a number.  The pursued person thus doesn't have to give a response at that time, and everyone can be on their way with much less tension in the air.

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This right here. You make an offer, it is on them to use it or not. You are offering them something rather than making a request of them. That is how you demonstrate your interest in someone and establish a modicum of trust.

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I don't speak for all women. Possibly some of them are fine with strangers asking for their number. Personally I would love it if I was never asked for my number by a stranger ever again. And yes - I do mean 100% love it, with no regrets what-so-ever.

If society changed in this way that I'd like it to, that doesn't mean I'd never date ever again - people could still give me their number, or I could give them mine, or they could wait until we're at least acquaintances before asking, and so on... It would just mean I'd avoid a number of fairly unpleasant interactions.

The last person to express interest in dating me gave me his number and facebook details on a piece of paper. That was great and I totally recommend it. Since the interest was mutual, I sms-ed him pretty much immediately so that he had my number too. (He was also a long time acquaintance, so Jeph's "don't ask strangers for their number" advice doesn't apply anyway. Still, I preferred it this way.)

I can't help wondering if it's an unwillingness to give up control (and/or the chance to badger someone into giving out their number when they'd rather not) that makes some people so resistant to switching to giving out their number instead of asking for the other person's number. If the ideal goal is to date someone where there's mutual interest, then surely the approach detailed in the last paragraph is the best approach... But perhaps that's not the goal for these people who claim they "just have to be allowed to ask for a stranger's number or dating will grind to a halt". Because it won't. But for some reason some people keep on believing it will.

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Also I totally agree that Brun was very rude to tell Rupert's owner he had to stay and let her pet Rupert after she stopped lecturing him on the need to keep his dog on a leash. That doesn't change what I said above though. I'd still have 100% no regrets if the idea that it's okay to ask a stranger for their number died out forever today.

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