Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
Subtext:
--- Quote from: jesslc on 20 Apr 2020, 23:01 ---Kind of late to the discussion but as a woman reading this thread, I can't help wondering if those thinking Jeph is wrong for saying "Don't ask strangers for their number" are men...
Because based on my life experiences as a woman, I completely agree with Jeph's comment and with these posts:
--- Quote from: sitnspin on 19 Apr 2020, 09:19 ---
--- Quote from: Autistic Vulture on 19 Apr 2020, 09:02 ---Clinton did it right. Giving your number to someone causes much less awkwardness than asking for a number. The pursued person thus doesn't have to give a response at that time, and everyone can be on their way with much less tension in the air.
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This right here. You make an offer, it is on them to use it or not. You are offering them something rather than making a request of them. That is how you demonstrate your interest in someone and establish a modicum of trust.
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I can't help wondering if it's an unwillingness to give up control (and/or the chance to badger someone into giving out their number when they'd rather not) that makes some people so resistant to switching to giving out their number instead of asking for the other person's number. If the ideal goal is to date someone where there's mutual interest, then surely the approach detailed in the last paragraph is the best approach... But perhaps that's not the goal for these people who claim they "just have to be allowed to ask for a stranger's number or dating will grind to a halt". Because it won't. But for some reason some people keep on believing it will.
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Well, I'd find it a lot more uncomfortable to offer my number to someone else or rather...I'd get uncomfortable if someone offer me theirs. I'd feel put on the spot...saying no to an offer comes off as a lot more rude than declining a request.
Also, accepting the offer and then never calling isn't particularly nice either. Keep in mind that it's already a big step for many many guys to even approach someone else. It's not so much an unwillingness to give up control - you aren't in control to begin with as the person asked can always say no - but more an unwillingness to surrender to the mood of someone you barely know and can't judge when you're nervous to begin with. Many also already fully expect rejection, so getting a no might not be the best thing in the world but it's something you can prepare for. Waiting for the call that never comes...not so much.
Asking and getting declined is easier...it ends the interaction right there and then, nothing else to do. Plus...it does save some face if one gets declined after asking compared to offering the number...and getting turned down. The latter would look a tad more desperate.
I suppose it's obvious but I'm saying that as a guy by the way (and I did find your initial question a little rude btw).
On a personal note, I don't usually ask for a phone number. If possible, I try to arrange a meet up or just ask what's the best way to reach her. I can fully get someone being private about their phone number but being comfortable offering other ways of contacting them.
TorporChambre:
--- Quote from: Potato Farmer on 14 Apr 2020, 05:22 ---Lately I've been having moments where it feels like my body is more a vehicle I happen to inhabit than a true extension of myself.
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A notion has person as the psyche, his body as all the by psyche controlled; partly, his flesh (where apropos, whollier, chassis) is of his (i.e. extended) body---with property (lucid or illicit). (With such notion is measure: body fitness (psyche's); dysphoria bodine may be about low such fitness, may be about that body an other using. e.g. By loathed task, externity, sensible continuent, yondly farthens, whither directing, nigh imparticipating. Beware intruders et alia.)
--- Quote from: Potato Farmer on 14 Apr 2020, 05:22 ---In particular when I'm talking with people in the physical world, as I realize that when they communicate with me they're looking at this physical face which to them represents me.
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Alien such factoring as referent an exherant is. My his face an alloy ideal (with germane (how can be, save where carnal interactions are, anatomical face so?) some exherants) is.
--- Quote from: Potato Farmer on 14 Apr 2020, 05:22 ---I don't actually dislike it but I agree with Brun that having a body is... weird.
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pun unintended
--- Quote from: Tova on 20 Apr 2020, 05:23 ---We're all big believers in here, aren't we, that the feelings of the recipient of a behavior are more important than the intent behind it. Right?
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Wrong. Any one's feeling, intent, is only hisself's. To only who has the intent, feeling is it important. To both the action's effects on their common reality are important.
--- Quote from: Tova on 20 Apr 2020, 05:23 ---"Sub-optimal" and "rude" are not synonymous.
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Rudity may be suboptimal.
Suboptimality is wrong.
--- Quote from: Thrillho on 20 Apr 2020, 08:49 ---The fact that harm was no caused does not mean that it is not potentially harm causing behaviour.
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cautious libertarian explaining his nonleashing canidal
--- Quote from: BenRG on 15 Apr 2020, 23:25 ---find it odd that anyone wouldn't immediately obey posted rules because they are posted rules
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--- Quote from: translinguage mine ---I not, as popular ideals, have whatever against authority; thereof sit I antiservilian: proffering authority unfound whomto oughtta've none---unsound.
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e.g. This text; Even if was meant a number, of which are made our machines informatic, I might manuscript. I not
--- Quote from: sitnspin on 16 Apr 2020, 21:41 ---need a number to text
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--- Quote from: sitnspin on 17 Apr 2020, 00:34 ---I dunno. I still keep my real life shit and my online shit as separate as possible. Online is my refuge from real life. I don't want the people I am physically involved with tracking me down online, too, if I can help it.
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Wherefor multiple unlinkable own personæ may be; one's fleshbound presence may be, with each his other, linkless, enhanced (post) modern informatically. (About informatic techniques psychic associations preferred separate from fleshbound activity may be.)
Meander:
I just wanted to squee about Brun and Mille holding hands...
Thrillho:
I don't know what that prior post means but I am definitely not a libertarian.
And by all means squee! Squee to your heart's content.
Cypher:
--- Quote from: TorporChambre on 22 Apr 2020, 00:52 ---A notion has person as the psyche, his body as all the by psyche controled; partly, his ``human'' body (where appropriate, more wholly, cybrid chassis) is of his (AKA extended) body---with property (lucid or illicit). (With such notion is measure: body fitness (to psyche); dysphoria bodine may be about low such fitness, may be about that body an other using. e.g. During loathed task, externity, continuent sensible, yond-dimensely farthens, whither directing, almost not participating. Beware intruders et alia.)
... Alien such factoring as referent an it's aspect, especially accidental, exherent, is. In my, his face an alloy ideal (with germane (how can so be, save where carnal interactions are, anatomical face?) some exherents) is.
...Rudity may be a suboptimality. Suboptimality is a wrongity.
... cautious libertarian explaining his nonleashing canidal
... Wherefor multiple unlinkable own personae may be; one's in-the-flesh presence may be, sans link with any his others, enhanced by (post) modern informatics. (About informatic techniques psychic associations preferred separate from in-the-flesh activity may be.)
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I mean, I'm sorry, but WHAT? Is this actually intelligible to... anyone else? Am I missing some joke or other? "Wrongity" and "canidal", for one thing, aren't even words, and that's leaving quite aside the essential- and, one feels, very contrived- incomprehensibility of this whole post.
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