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dutchrvl:
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--- Quote from: dutchrvl on 14 May 2020, 08:47 ---In my personal experience, many people seem to use the term 'outgrew' even when they simply mean their interests changed over time, so for me the term doesn't have the negative connotation.
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Often they do mean it in a highly negative way, particularly if we're talking about subjects generally perceived as childish.
If you read the strip, it's explicitly stated that D&D is only for smelly virgins.
In the story from my personal history, there was no question what he meant. IIRC he said he didn't play games anymore because he "grew up."
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Yes, sometimes people (like your personal example) do mean it in a negative way. I was merely commenting that somebody stating they "kinda outgrew something" does not by definition imply they are embarrassed, find it childish, or otherwise look at it negatively.
As for that strip, I don't see anything even resembling an explicit statement that D&D is only for smelly virgins. All I see is Faye who implies that Marten may have quit playing D&D out of fear of ending up a smelly virgin.It doesn't even mean Marten, JJ, or Faye actually think that.
sitnspin:
--- Quote from: dutchrvl on 14 May 2020, 05:38 ---
--- Quote from: Welu on 14 May 2020, 05:02 ---An observation I've made is it seems Americans will use grades instead of saying "when I was 13" and I always have to look up the related age. Not something I've seen people in my neck of the woods (Ireland/UK) do, we would say the age. I'd have to think for a second to remember which school year applied.
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Even after having lived in the US for almost 13 years, this still trips me up, because phrases like 8th grade or 9th grade just don't automatically translate to a certain age....9th grade is 3rd year of middle school, correct? So about 14-15 years old then?
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Ninth grade is the first year of high school. Elementary school is K-5. Middle school is 6-8. High school is 9-12. Some place have Junior High which divides things differently.
Theta9:
--- Quote from: sitnspin on 14 May 2020, 13:13 ---Ninth grade is the first year of high school. Elementary school is K-5. Middle school is 6-8. High school is 9-12. Some place have Junior High which divides things differently.
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I went to school in the Los Angeles and Seattle areas, and both were arranged thusly:
K-6 = Elementary School
7-9 = Junior High School
10-12 = High School
Also having been born in the summer, I started kindergarten at age 5 and graduated high school at age 17.
Torlek:
School divisions in the United States are all over the place. By and large, it seems to break down based on school population and necessary building sizes.
My elementary (primary) school was K-8 (5-13 y.o. for me) and high school was 9-12. I've seen middle schools broken out for 4-6 and 5-8 and junior highs broken out for 6-8 and 7-9 and even independent kindergartens bundled in with some Pre-K functionality. High school years are typically more uniform since there is a specified division between primary and secondary education but I've seen large schools that will section 9th grade off in its own building or a separate campus entirely while the 10-12 school will be labeled the Senior High School. Using age makes less sense than using grade because of the edge cases of particularly gifted children (we had a 10 year old in my high school pre-calculus class, but math was all he was taking advanced courses in) and children that are held back for whatever reason (poor performance, mental development issues or the particularly frustrating cases where the parents make the child repeat a grade or don't start them in school until a year later so they'll be stronger in athletics).
Now what's Byzantine is the way British schools are divided up.
dutchrvl:
Right, so even within US not entirely consistent. Not to mention the concepts of freshman/sophomore/junior/senior also still trip me up sometimes.
For reference, I'm use to:
elementary school: 6 years, generally talked about as grades 3-8 (1st and 2nd grade are kindergarten)
middle education (i.e. middle and high school, we don't split those concepts): class 1 to class 4-6 (length depends on level of education)
higher education: college/university, typically started after 5-6 years of middle education (for college) or 6 years (for university). And no, the equivalent of colleges in the Netherlands are not quite the same as universities
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