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cybersmurf:
--- Quote from: Thrudd on 16 Sep 2020, 09:52 ---See!
This is what happens when you don't practice a second language for extended periods of time.
My other excuse is that the standard character set doesn't do the German sharp s so people and some translation programs use a double s
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Yes, unfortunately, you're right. Any language you don't use degrades within two years to "I can't create a straight sentence anymore", and within five "I only understand half what they're saying".
Technically, the ß is correctly substituted by 'sz', not 'ss'.
--- Quote from: snubnose on 17 Sep 2020, 05:40 ---
--- Quote from: Thrudd on 16 Sep 2020, 09:52 ---See!
This is what happens when you don't practice a second language for extended periods of time.
My other excuse is that the standard character set doesn't do the German sharp s so people and some translation programs use a double s
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Well, for the record, for some reason according to current german orthography rules, as defined by the Duden staff, the "ß" is discontinued and you're supposed to write "ss" instead all the time now.
Which is sometimes a big problem because for example german "Masse" means "mass" while "Maße" means "measurements". And yes both words are spelled slightly differently.
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Apparently the Germans are dismantling their own language. Masse amd Maße are pronounced differently, Masse has a short a (and ss), while Maße has a longer a. 'ss' and 'ß' were meant to distinguish this spoken difference, at least according to the spelling reform in the early 2000s.
For the record: my native language is German, but the Germans would probably disagree. Austrian German uses some differing vocabulary, but the worst thing - especially for learners - we tend to put stress more towards the end of the word instead of the beginning, and by that change in rhythm and melody, coupled with "non-standard vocabulary" could already throw you off easily, if we didn't have our own dialects/accents.
Anyways, I think we derailed the topic of this thread enough. Either we make a new post for all of this, or you send me a DM.
It would be funny though (at least to me), if we got some relative of Faye, but stuck in perms-redneck language...
pwhodges:
--- Quote from: Tova on 17 Sep 2020, 15:14 ---ß <-- produced on windows 10 by following the steps above.
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But how many characters are that simple? Also, what you can do varies according to national keyboard choice. On my UK keyboard, AltGr s does not produce ß, but AltGr and a vowel generates an acute accent á é í ó ú; however, that doesn't work on a US keyboard. And so on. Having a uniform way to type all European diacritic characters is good - and I can't conceive why it hasn't been in Windows for the past 25 years!
Scarlet Manuka:
--- Quote from: pwhodges on 18 Sep 2020, 01:51 ---Also, what you can do varies according to national keyboard choice.
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I'm pretty sure that's the design goal of national keyboards.
--- Quote ---Having a uniform way to type all European diacritic characters is good - and I can't conceive why it hasn't been in Windows for the past 25 years!
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The alt codes have been...
Tova:
--- Quote from: pwhodges on 18 Sep 2020, 01:51 ---
--- Quote from: Tova on 17 Sep 2020, 15:14 ---ß <-- produced on windows 10 by following the steps above.
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But how many characters are that simple? Also, what you can do varies according to national keyboard choice. On my UK keyboard, AltGr s does not produce ß, but AltGr and a vowel generates an acute accent á é í ó ú; however, that doesn't work on a US keyboard. And so on. Having a uniform way to type all European diacritic characters is good - and I can't conceive why it hasn't been in Windows for the past 25 years!
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Just as a reminder, I did say that the addon looks useful. I was merely responding to the assertion that you could not do it in Windows at all.
And, yes, obviously it varies based on keyboard choice, which is why my instructions included a specific keyboard installation. While I was studying French, I had a French keyboard installed which I would switch to in order to insert accented characters.
Edit: Here you go:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-au/help/306560/how-to-use-the-united-states-international-keyboard-layout-in-windows
Starla!!:
A relatively recent one...http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=4187
Love the pained grimaces throughout, and the one-eyed sidewise glances. Faye's line in the last panel just cracks me up every time I read it. :-D
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