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WCDT strips 4271-4275 (25th - 29th May 2020)
sitnspin:
--- Quote from: DaiJB on 25 May 2020, 19:48 ---Wait a minute - "...the one thing you know for a fact is against our principles"???
Rubbish! That is exactly what they do without a moment's hesitation! Spookybot paralysed Faye last time they met - and put Dora and Emily (and presumably anyone else in CoD) to sleep - what is that if not mind-control? Our nervous systems don't just stop at our skulls!
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Knocking someone unconscious is not mind control. Their principles are against mind control, not nervous system twerking. What they did was functionally the same as tasing them, just less painful. Still wrong by society's standards, but not Yay's.
gprimr1:
To me, unconsciousness and mind control are not the same thing.
Yay uses their powers to sort of stun Faye yes when she talks back to Yay, but she never makes Faye do anything against her will. Faye seems to be implying today that Yay is mind-controlling her into talking about the situation with Bubbles, which seems to strike a chord since she was there when Yay gave her sanctity of the mind speech.
They are a g-dlike being and I think that gives them the arrogance we see early on. Also, part of me wonders if some of it was a show.
In this comic, when they are alone and away from everyone, they behave very differently: https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3403
Is it possible perhaps part of their power is the perception of their power, and thus only in private can they turn off the show?
Looking back at those comics, here's a theory...I know some people in the past have mentioned Yay might be an AI CIA/KGB/FBI but....
What if they are in cahoots with Station? We know Station is one of the most powerful AIs in existence, and he doesn't actually say he can't do it, he says he wouldn't want to try. If he knew he couldn't do it, wouldn't he just say he can't?
Now we know Station was created by the inventor of AI, so possible so was Yay, as the mentioned AI secret police. They only meddle here and there, when someone shows up on their radar for messing with the AI mind.
So my theory is based on four things
1.) They show up very quickly after Station says he "won't even try." Almost as if he made a phone call right after calling Hanners.
2.) If they were created by John Ellicott-Chatham, they would have access to the source code for every aspect of an AI. With the source code, you can understand every aspect of the program. This could also be how they develop their tools.
3.) Without knowing more about patent law in the QC universe, John Ellicott-Chatham may well have patents on the software, and thus their "sanctity of the mind" is really protecting his software.
4.) Being a smart man, he may have forseen the reality that some AIs will be bad. Alerting the mind of other AIs would cross the line that balances human and AI interactions since it could lead to fear of robot zombie armies or things like that. A secret police force that monitors things like this thus would ensure that "bad" AIs are only limited to doing similiar to human crimes.
At the least, I think Station knows who they are and has a line of communication with them.
Now for the story...
I'm wondering if we might find out a curveball like there is a procedure to possibly recover the memories by studying the quantum state of the physical storage or that when They raised Corpse Witch's offices, They found a backup of the memories but decided to let Bubbles evolve on her own.
brasca:
I just noticed that Spookybot is using a round speech bubble to talk to Faye when previously we've seen them use square when talking to other AIs. Perhaps they prefer to do this with humans.
Is it cold in here?:
--- Quote from: Tova on 25 May 2020, 21:29 ---
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 25 May 2020, 20:25 ---Overly powerful characters mess up storytelling and can certainly be a mistake.
Zoe came up with a good line of argument, though, that something like Eminence Grise is a logical requirement to stabilize the QC world.
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I cannot recall the details of that argument. It seems like a bit of a leap.
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I don't remember either, and I wish I did because as I remember it was worked out to the degree you'd expect from Zoe.
BenRG:
"... The one thing you know for a fact to be against our principles." - Actually, Yay, I don't think that you've ever told Faye that in those terms!
I honestly wonder where Jeph is taking this. If Faye needs advice or to vent, it would make far more sense to use Marten in this role. So, I'm wondering if this is more part of Yay's character arc. In which they learn:
* Some people might not be willing to just let their past misdeeds go;
* Love messes with your reasoning abilities pretty effectivelyBoth of these will be food for thought, if for different reasons.
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