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WCDT strips 4301-4305 (6th July to 10 July 2020)
Potato Farmer:
--- Quote from: Gyrre on 10 Jul 2020, 01:26 ---And regardless of either, there will always be those who are duped into going against change that would benefit everybody because incredibly selfish people tell them that whatever it is, "that's socialism" and they've been convinced 'socialism bad' without questioning just who it's "bad" for.
I've been dealing with relatives who wholeheartedly believe the current American healthcare system is socialized medicine despite it being the antithesis of socialized medicine. It's very frustrating.
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You have my sympathies. I live in Europe but I'm aware of those groups which argue that anything which is even remotely linked to socialism is automatically bad and evil and wrong and STOP THINKING ABOUT SOCIALISM EMBRACE CAPITALISM.
It's rather difficult to discuss progress and alternatives which might be better than the current system when a large amount of the populace has been brainwashed into thinking that the status quo is the best we're going to get and any alternative must be purged from people's minds because it's the work of the devil.
dutchrvl:
(IICIH here. Insulting material in the quote has been spoilerized.)
--- Quote from: HotDog_Meat_Mishap on 10 Jul 2020, 00:28 ---
--- Quote from: BenRG on 09 Jul 2020, 23:21 ---Okay, Doc, that's nice. I'm sure that this will drive some real and beneficial change to how keeping people (both biological and synthetic) healthy is viewed as a responsibility of the wider community in about ten to twenty years time. What happens to May right now?
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(click to show/hide)This comic is the delusional fantasy playground of a man who had a psychotic break years ago. Going through the archives you can basically draw a line where he lost his grip.
I would say the inevitable happy-horseshit conclusion is about 25 strips away. Probably 50 at most. Then he'll find another SJW hot-button to pander to.
I fully expect Renee to start screaming about how black lives matter, then Union Robotics will be working three shifts a day seven days a week re-pigmenting all the robots in Fantasy Land into proper SJW-Approved Black People, while the white characters are marginalized and forgotten. I mean just like how everyone suddenly turned bisexual and/or discovered long-repressed lesbian tendencies while the hetero characters were largely written out. I'd ask how Steve and his girl are doing but knowing how this universe works I assume Steve killed himself out of white shame and his girl runs clinic teaching women how to use fake repressed rape-trauma as a career stepping stone.
Then when that dies down in a few months and is no longer the mass-media frenzy that it is -- on to the next one!
SUCH a shameless sellout, anything to make a buck. Which is ironic -- him pandering the way he does to make a living while espousing socialism and "money is evil and a broken tool used to exploit the masses."
Makes me laugh.
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Alright, so you've so far just come here to spout a lot of vitriol and frustrations, even though you do seem to have some legitimate arguments supporting your views on what is not going right with current movements. If you at some point settle down in terms of frustration/anger and are willing to further engage in normal conversation/discussion here, showing a willingness to hear varying viewpoints, then that would be great, because I am interested in your actual viewpoints.
I will say though that you do not make a great impression when you state things like "how to use fake repressed rape-trauma as a career stepping stone". Are you implying that this is widespread? Or that rape-trauma repression is by generally fake? For the former I'd like to know how you've come to the conclusion that it's widespread, if it's the latter then you're simply dead wrong, unless you feel your assessment is superior to many decades of scientific research.
I will also say that if you seriously feel like white people are somehow being "oppressed" right now, then I wonder if you've been paying attention, or of you simply are equating 'being oppressed' to 'losing some of the privilege'. I have similar issues with the baffling notion some people have that Christians are being oppressed. And I am saying all this as a Christian and extremely white male. Also, in case you're wondering: yes I am very aware of my privileged position in life, and no I am not ashamed of it, because I don't think I need to be ashamed of something out of my control. But I am aware of it, and I am trying to help, where I can, to help others (not black people only) to have a semblance of an equal situation to my own.
zmeiat_joro:
Can the trolls stop derailing our discussion about file formats? Do as I do and don't read their posts.
dutchrvl:
--- Quote from: Potato Farmer on 10 Jul 2020, 08:26 ---
--- Quote from: Gyrre on 10 Jul 2020, 01:26 ---And regardless of either, there will always be those who are duped into going against change that would benefit everybody because incredibly selfish people tell them that whatever it is, "that's socialism" and they've been convinced 'socialism bad' without questioning just who it's "bad" for.
I've been dealing with relatives who wholeheartedly believe the current American healthcare system is socialized medicine despite it being the antithesis of socialized medicine. It's very frustrating.
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You have my sympathies. I live in Europe but I'm aware of those groups which argue that anything which is even remotely linked to socialism is automatically bad and evil and wrong and STOP THINKING ABOUT SOCIALISM EMBRACE CAPITALISM.
It's rather difficult to discuss progress and alternatives which might be better than the current system when a large amount of the populace has been brainwashed into thinking that the status quo is the best we're going to get and any alternative must be purged from people's minds because it's the work of the devil.
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I may have mentioned this before, but I am from Europe too (but living in the US for over 10 years now), and one of the things that still baffles me is how self-centered the US society is, and how many people seem to be unwilling to learn from other societies/countries out of a weird notion that the US is by definition superior in every way. Being proud of your country is one thing (and nothing wrong with that), but having the mindset that your country is superior will hold you back, because if you think you're superior to all other countries, why would you ever try to learn from them?
Politicians, even our current president, like to point to countries like Denmark, Norway, Sweden as doing so well in general, yet they don't seem to be that interested in actually trying to implement similar policies as in those countries.
Potato Farmer:
--- Quote from: zmeiat_joro on 10 Jul 2020, 08:38 ---Can the trolls stop derailing our discussion about file formats?
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Sorry friend, socialism is the new hip term of the thread.
EDIT:
--- Quote from: dutchrvl on 10 Jul 2020, 08:38 ---I may have mentioned this before, but I am from Europe too (but living in the US for over 10 years now), and one of the things that still baffles me is how self-centered the US society is, and how many people seem to be unwilling to learn from other societies/countries out of a weird notion that the US is by definition superior in every way. Being proud of your country is one thing (and nothing wrong with that), but having the mindset that your country is superior will hold you back, because if you think you're superior to all other countries, why would you ever try to learn from them?
Politicians, even our current president, like to point to countries like Denmark, Norway, Sweden as doing so well in general, yet they don't seem to be that interested in actually trying to implement similar policies as in those countries.
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Definitely. The US has had decades of being told by the media and their leaders that the US is special, above every other country. The result is a culture of entitlement and overblown egos where the slightest implication that the US might not be ahead of everyone else or even lagging behind is taken as a direct attack.
For example from how I understand it Trump took it as a personal insult to his great nation when most European countries said they don't want large scale travel between Europe and the US right now when the truth is that the EU has been working hard to fight the covid-19 pandemic and we just don't want the rampant infection rate in the US to ruin our efforts.
Another thing which worries me about the US: everything is made into a political issue. Somehow wearing masks is a political issue. How did that happen?
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