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WCDT Strips 4331-4335 (18-22, August 2020)
Scarlet Manuka:
--- Quote from: eschaton on 19 Aug 2020, 05:48 ---In fairness however, if most of your social circle is LGBT, and you are not, you're probably much more liable to be open to the possibilities than if everyone you know is cis/hetero and repressed as all hell.
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What difference does it make if they are repressed? In fact it seems to me that it ought to be worse if they were outspoken about it, so I don't know why you added this clause at all (it comes aross to me as a little bit of gratuitously implying that cis/hetero people are just that way because they are repressed, but presumably that's not what you intended). If you do think that would make it worse I'd be interested to know why.
--- Quote from: Perfectly Reasonable on 19 Aug 2020, 08:09 ---Who should Clinton go to for relationship advice?
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Pintsize, of course!
Half serious and half because of the possible range of amusing consequences.
--- Quote from: Mordhaus on 19 Aug 2020, 13:52 ---Can we just skip to the relationship we ALL really care about? Anthropomorphic French bread and Roko!
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Maybe she should try going out with one of the toaster AIs (one who is willing to engage in conversation rather than just flinging toast at her à la Pintsize). Although we know she also has a weakness for Human Abs, and has fantasised about Clinton before.
... Now I kind of want to see Roko getting involved in the current arc.
AfternoonGlory:
The ideal partner for Roko is a freshly baked loaf of french bread with abs
ihaveavoice:
--- Quote from: eschaton on 19 Aug 2020, 07:31 ---
--- Quote from: ihaveavoice on 19 Aug 2020, 06:19 ---Quick note that being attracted to Claire does nothing to alter Marten's sexuality. He's no less hetero for falling for a trans woman.
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Again, I'm not up on my modern terminology, but my understanding is that trans people are by definition under the queer umbrella. Thus Martin/Claire is a queer relationship even though Martin himself might not be queer.
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The T is part of LGBT, yes, but there's this really harmful "but they aren't REALLY that gender" cultural line of thinking that leads to all sorts of messed up conversations, and I wanted to make sure to pop that in as a note that we might not want to stumble into those implications. It really takes the harmlessness away from any well-meant statement that could possibly imply a heterosexual man is no longer het if he's attracted to a transwoman. And the original comment was about the sexuality of individual characters, not the perception of relationships as queer, so it is relevant enough that I felt the quick correction would be helpful.
For a pop culture example of writers fucking this sort of thing up, see the show Big Mouth having a pansexual character explain her sexuality as being into men, women, men transitioning into women, and women transitioning into men (using tacos and hot dogs or something - idk, I don't watch it, just saw a clip back when this was a thing). Holy unfortunate implications and inaccurate definitions, Batman! They were rightfully slammed for their dialogue promoting the harmful, unfortunately prevalent assumption that either trans people aren't REALLY that gender or they are only REALLY that gender once they can "pass." Probably felt pretty shitty to be a trans fan of the show.
Gnabberwocky:
--- Quote from: ihaveavoice on 20 Aug 2020, 07:58 ---For a pop culture example of writers fucking this sort of thing up, see the show Big Mouth having a pansexual character explain her sexuality as being into men, women, men transitioning into women, and women transitioning into men (using tacos and hot dogs or something - idk, I don't watch it, just saw a clip back when this was a thing).
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In addition to the offensive statement about trans* people's genders "not counting," they also completely left out nonbinary, agender, gender-fluid, etc. from under the pansexual umbrella.
snufflebottoms:
--- Quote from: Gnabberwocky on 20 Aug 2020, 09:03 ---
--- Quote from: ihaveavoice on 20 Aug 2020, 07:58 ---For a pop culture example of writers fucking this sort of thing up, see the show Big Mouth having a pansexual character explain her sexuality as being into men, women, men transitioning into women, and women transitioning into men (using tacos and hot dogs or something - idk, I don't watch it, just saw a clip back when this was a thing).
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In addition to the offensive statement about trans* people's genders "not counting," they also completely left out nonbinary, agender, gender-fluid, etc. from under the pansexual umbrella.
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I've seen that episode and it was a weird food metaphor. She ends it by saying "and anything else on the menu." I think it would have been better to skip the taco transitioning to a burrito (yes that's what she says) but they do acknowledge more than two genders and that the pansexual character can be attracted to any of them.
ETA: Also at least one thing right about that episode is that they address that just because she's pansexual doesn't mean she wants to be with everyone. It's big mouth so it's during a weird ass wedding between two middle schoolers.
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