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WCDT Strips 4336-4340 (25th-29th, August 2020)
Gnabberwocky:
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What are some examples of May showing empathy? Everything I can remember offhand has her being pretty self-centered.
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Honestly, Dale and Marigold probably wouldn't be together now if not for May.
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One could also argue, successfully I think, that May did that bit of matchmaking to assure herself a cheaper (Dale insisted she pay a share of the rent) place to live without having to be with utter strangers or subject herself to the rental market as a former felon; which would make that action less about empathy and more about self-centered-ness. Karma being what it is, she engineered a situation where she has to be careful about entering her own domicile because of the possible activities that might be going on... That, in and of itself, is amusing because May herself is deeply interested in the very same activities and doesn't know how to respond when she's not in the mix.
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It would have been easier for May to be simply apathetic about the situation rather than actively selfish. It seems riskier to try to carefully engineer the lives of two people and an AI by twisting their love livest to your own personal satisfaction than it does to mutter a few condolences and stay out of it. She had every opportunity to just ignore Dale in most of the situations I mentioned, but she didn't.
Scarlet Manuka:
--- Quote from: jesslc on 30 Aug 2020, 01:28 ---By the way, has there been any official word on Beeps's pronouns? In the early comics featuring Beeps, Jeph's author comment used "they" to refer to Beeps and Roko also used "they" when talking about Beeps with Bubbles later (links below). But I'm pretty sure I've also seen an author comment and/or a character in comic use "she/her" when referring to Beeps at a later date.
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There's a fair bit of evidence in the postscripts, but nothing in the comic itself as far as I could see.
4129: Can't Stay Mad Forever - "Beeps is getting a cute kitty on her back :3".
4209: Tragedy - "It was in the hiring packet that she never gave Roko".
4298: Up And At 'Em - "Her PJs have a butt-flap because she thinks it's cute".
Thrillho:
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--- Quote from: Thrillho on 28 Aug 2020, 10:13 ---Chris, I am a little concerned about how much spite you seem to have directed to a fictional AI.
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I'm not. I'd say it's actually kind of normal.
QC is very much a character-driven strip. While not every character is fleshed out (hello, Melon!), many of them are fairly complex. Many (most?) people on this forum spend a lot of time talking about them and their actions as if they were real people. Disliking a particular character is just the flip side of the affection that forum regulars display toward characters like Bubbles.
Or to put it another way, if you're upset that someone intensely dislikes a character you kind of like, how is that any different? If you feel a character is "just a fictional AI," shouldn't you be largely indifferent?
Fictional characters, in QC or in books, push our buttons because they remind us of people we've met in real life. We are, in a way, talking about the real people whose reflections we see those fictional characters.
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You misunderstand the crux of my post.
I am a fan of professional wrestling - and I go to shows. I'm pretty well-versed in distinguishing between fun hatred for a fictional villain, or contempt for a character whose ethics are written to be loathsome to you.
May, a character I have historically despised out of annoyance rather than anything else, has not been depicted as someone inherently corrupt or as a 'bad guy' character in any way whatsoever. The level of spite Chris was feeling towards her to me felt as out-of-place as if it had been directed at, say, Marten, or Bubbles.
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May very much reminds me of a lot of the prisoners I deal with day to day. The entitled ones, the ones who blame all their problems on everything but themselves, that actively resist all efforts to help, its extremely...tiring to deal with them, to try help them
As an example literacy and numeracy is a big problem in our prisons and we have many programs so you'd think it'd be a simple deal to get the guys on the courses to help themselves but no its like pulling teeth.
First there are the guys who say they want to do the courses but only say that so they can be transferred to the "softer" units and then say they won't go. Then there are the guys that're only attending the courses because they need it for their parole and then actively play up on the course thereby making it harder for the few who do actually want to learn (and then kick up a fuss and make complaints when they're removed from the course) there are also the ones who insist on one to one tutoring because its the only way they learn and of course don't forget the ones who go just so they can transfer contraband to other units via the other prisoners
May has gotten a rough deal with her body breaking down for sure however her actions are what got her there in the first place (if I remember correctly) but since then shes been taken in by Dale, made friends with Momo, has Roko on her case (in a good way) and now had a substantial amount of money given to her for a new body and every step of the way shes made it a struggle for everyone and, IRL, thats just really tiring and frustrating
Personal anecdote time, a case prisoner of mine was a couple of weeks away from being released so his case manager and probation officer were trying to find a bed for this guy (he had no one and his family wanted nothing to do with him) so it probably was going to be with the Salvation Army however they also needed to find a bed for this guy so do you think this guy was appreciative of how many people (minimum of four different departments by this time) were trying to sort something out for him, of course not because he wanted to know right there and then and, in his words, "if you (meaning me) don't sort it out I'll just commit another crime and come back to prison"
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You know what. Fair enough.
After you made this post the thread keeled off in a direction that was quite confrontational towards you and your viewpoints - and I have to say that we share almost none on this topic.
However I think it would be ridiculous of me as someone who has never even been in a prison to visit someone, never mind had a sentence or worked in one, to chide you for your own emotions and associations related to your job. I can talk better conditions for prisioners until I'm blue in the face, but I'm not about to sit here and tell someone who actually has to do it every day how to do their damn job.
Is it cold in here?:
>I can talk better conditions for prisioners until I'm blue in the face
As I have done, but I fully acknowledge how damaging prisons are for the people who work in them. The better run they are (like FCI McLean under Dennis Luther) the better they are for both the prisoners and the people who supervise them.
chris73:
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You know what. Fair enough.
After you made this post the thread keeled off in a direction that was quite confrontational towards you and your viewpoints - and I have to say that we share almost none on this topic.
However I think it would be ridiculous of me as someone who has never even been in a prison to visit someone, never mind had a sentence or worked in one, to chide you for your own emotions and associations related to your job. I can talk better conditions for prisoners until I'm blue in the face, but I'm not about to sit here and tell someone who actually has to do it every day how to do their damn job.
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To be fair I bought some (most, all) of it on to myself due to how I put it on the threads. I do have healthy ways to express the frustrations I have but I did let some of those frustrations out on this board in a way that probably wasn't conducive to a robust discussion.
This is a good, positive storyline that helps to right a unfair wrong, in a system that isn't close to being adequate (let alone perfect) and I jumped in with some views which may be accurate but probably (understatement) wasn't necessary.
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