Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCDT strips 4376-4380 (Oct 19th to Oct 23rd 2020)
Tova:
Pizza. I've finally come to the conclusion that there are no bad pizza ingredients, only bad combinations.
Story: If Jeph goes the route of Clinton gets drunk -> Clinton and Elliot declare their affection for each other -> next morning, they both wake up wondering if it was genuine or the booze, then I'm just giving up on QC, because Jeph is just repeating himself in different combinations over and over.
--- Quote from: de_la_Nae on 19 Oct 2020, 07:41 ---it also doesn't help that as cultures we publicly lie to ourselves a lot about why we make decisions
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We like to think that we have special insight into the reasons we make decisions.
We don't really, but we are really really good at post-hoc rationalization.
So, even when we lie about why we make decisions, what we imagine to be the "truth" we're withholding from the public may well be wrong as well.
Rincewind:
Is that taller person with the funky hair sporting a Hercules T-Shirt?
Gnabberwocky:
--- Quote from: Tova on 19 Oct 2020, 19:07 ---Story: If Jeph goes the route of Clinton gets drunk -> Clinton and Elliot declare their affection for each other -> next morning, they both wake up wondering if it was genuine or the booze, then I'm just giving up on QC, because Jeph is just repeating himself in different combinations over and over.
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I see where you're coming from, but I can't think of an instance where it was ever really in question.
With the Marten/Claire scenario, Claire was sober the night before and Marten barely hesitated the next morning before going over to her house.
With the Dora/Tai scenario, there was never any doubt for Tai, and like Tai said, just because she wasn't drunk doesn't mean she didn't mean it.
Basically, I disagree, and I think Jeph is too creative to use an exhausted storyline anyways.
N.N. Marf:
I think it'd be more interesting if Clinton got drunk and started causing a minor scene, or subtle problems for Elliot's bouncer role that Elliot notices and worries about the bar noticing, even thought it's just something subtle that probably only few others would notice or even care about, but Elliot thinks he's in the awkward position of having to handle the situation but in a gentler way than usual because he doesn't want to mess up his chances with Clinton. Or whether he even needs to do anything about it.. Maybe interesting if he slightly overreacts, causing slight difficulties for their relationship, that he imagines are really big problems.
And there's definitely the potential to weave in something with Brun, irregarding whether it's directly related. Recently hasn't been much simultaneous storylines advancement, so I doubt this would happen.. I'd offer some odds for betting, but I'd rather wait for the old bet to resolve first. How many in-story days has it been so far? 2--3? Time really flies when I'm busy with---wait a minute!
Gyrre:
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--- Quote from: Blackjoker on 19 Oct 2020, 06:04 ---Back when I haunted the wizards of the coast forums a 100 years ago mentioning Katanas was a bannable offense because of how vitriolic and stupid the arguments tended to get. Similarly you ended up with really vicious argumetns about psionics rules. Some were genuinely interesting and there ended up being some great discussions/screaming matches about rules and the like. People get passionate about things or just want to troll.
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You have me really curious now - what in the world is there to argue about in regards to katanas? Is it that they're somehow a superior weapon? That seems like an especially ridiculous argument in D&D - it's been a long time since I looked at stats, but I think as far as D&D is concerned a katana is functionally a longsword that takes a separate proficiency? Even if you want to claim it's somehow better, fine, make them all Masterwork by default - everyone is on the same page by level 5 or 6 when actual enchanted weapons start popping up anyway.
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Ok, well there were several subjheadings to this. See in 2nd edition the katana was genuinely OP, it was something like 2d12 damage which for those that aren't complete geeks is exceptionally high for a melee weapon. Then they just made them masterwork bastard swords in 3.0-3.5. This had objections from four camps.
1) Katanas are way better than that, they can cut cannon barrels and should be proper high damage
2) Katanas are curved blades not straight and most curved weapons have a higher crit range but maybe adjust damage, plus if you have to take an exotic weapons feat for it it should maybe be better
3) Katanas are trash and so are you ya damn weeb, they should be doing barely any damage and quit bringing your anime trash to my game
4) Katanas should have their own category if we're going to do the same thing for other similar weapons that exist or make tons of exotics, might as well make it more in line.
1 and 3 had the loudest and most pronounced arguments and all of this was pre-mythbusters. Some people might have been looking at it as legacy rules, some were going off of mall ninja lore, some were reacting negatively to what they viewed as foreign ideas in their gamespace, some were reacting to stuff from the past and some on both sides were trolling. I ended up in it by accidents because of a discussion about exotic weapons in general and what a crapshoot they were. I ended up making them their own thing and the stats I used ended up being the stats for them in Pathfinder a few years later so I guess I was ahead of the curve.
Also weapon stats could mean a lot because of how certain builds worked, a weapon that has poor damage but stupid high crit range due to typos is nuts for any kind of crit fisher build. But I'm already probably boring others that aren't into this so I'll stop here
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Oh wow, the only 2E games I've played are the IE games and those all just made them 1d10. A medium longsword is 1d8, 2d12 is just fucking *broken* - it's just a sword, Jesus Christ. I think I'm in camp 2, all of that makes sense - if I've got to spend a feat to use the thing without a penalty, it *should* be better than a bog-standard longsword. But get outta here with that Weeabo "legendary Nippon steel that can slice through anything!" bullshit - it's a meter-long piece of sharpened steel, not a damned lightsaber. FWIW, it's been years since I played P&P, but I have a decent collection of 3.5 books that I've enjoyed reading and that's what I'm most familiar with, I don't really know anything about 4e or 5e.
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Not to mention the quality of the steel used during that time period. It may be 8 folded, but it's still dredged up from a sandbar and it's still going to shatter or bend if it hits something like stone. Hence why monks swallowed stones before their execution during the Sengoku Jidai.
EDIT: for specificity
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