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WCDT strips 4381-4385 (Oct 26th to Oct 30th 2020)
JoeCovenant:
I've been reading this thread with growing puzzlement.
I'm just NOT seeing the same reactions in Clinton's actions that most other's seem to be seeing!
I'm not seeing any heart-break, or sadness, or maliciousness... just a lightweight drinker running his mouth off.
(In Vino Veritas, and all that)
And Elliot? Well.. his face in that last frame looks to me like a "You're half a pint from seeing the doorway from a horizontal plane!"
Gore17:
Okay, so, me and my socially-inept ass have once again run into a situation where I fail to understand what problem is happening, or what social faux pas has been made.
So, Clinton has done something mean/cruel to Elliot, but I don't understand what. The best I can think of is that he phrased him talking to Brun badly, or that his end statement is rude in some way. Is the end line supposed to be read as Clinton subtly calling Elliot a coward? That's the best I can come up with.
Honestly, until I saw the title, and then the comments here, I thought Clinton was doing okay/being kind, but apparently not.
BenRG:
Bottom line is that Clinton has just said to the guy that he is sort of on a practice date with: "Oh I ran into this girl I like just now and she said that she doesn't feel any sexual attraction to me but, don't worry! If I understand right, she doesn't reciprocate the crush I know that you have on her either! Haha!"
So, firstly, he has implied strongly that he would have dumped Elliot on the spot and left with Brun if she'd returned his feelings. Secondly, he has admitted to basically talking to someone else about their feelings for each other and whether he had a chance with her whilst he was supposed to be going out with Elliot. Finally, he seems to be mocking Elliot's crush on Brun and taking comfort from the fact she isn't interested in him either. Now, I'm not saying that this is what Clinton is saying or doing. However, it is going to be very, very easy for Elliot to take it that way.
Tova:
--- Quote from: JoeCovenant on 29 Oct 2020, 03:06 ---I'm not seeing any heart-break, or sadness, or maliciousness... just a lightweight drinker running his mouth off.
(In Vino Veritas, and all that)
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Now that you mention this, I'm reminded (as I so often am these days) of a previous strip, and its own subsequent debate.
--- Quote from: Gore17 on 29 Oct 2020, 03:11 ---Honestly, until I saw the title, and then the comments here, I thought Clinton was doing okay/being kind, but apparently not.
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Yeah, he won't like it, but he'll do his job if and when it comes down to it.
N.N. Marf:
--- Quote from: Reaver on 28 Oct 2020, 22:55 ---The comics never excuse it, the readers typically do, I’m just annoyed that whenever Clinton flubs, people are quick to slam him hard and without mercy (and not in a fun way)
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I see it too often in the world---these forums included---that it's absence from the comic would have my compliments to God. I think one of the issues is that we don't see any underlying issues with Clinton, only behaviour, so that's what we criticize, though it would be more effective to merely note the behaviour, and watch for other clues as they might arise---to wait until there's enough data to say something deeper about why, maybe, those behaviours are thus. The second biggest problem I see with Clinton's behaviour in row 3 frame 2, is that he's gesticulating with a glass of beer. Last time, some splashed on a big-guy's shirt, who threatened corporal violence in response. It's a nice detail, actually, because (d) he's kinda doing the same thing---emotionally---to Elliot, and (r) it reminds us that Elliot already displayed to Clinton what Yaaaaaaaay Newfriend proposed to pose for.
The biggest problem is loose talk, but many a character suffers that flaw.
--- Quote from: JoeCovenant on 29 Oct 2020, 03:06 ---And Elliot? Well.. his face in that last frame looks to me like a "You're half a pint from seeing the doorway from a horizontal plane!"
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Well, I think there's some verity to the idea that Elliot's immediate reaction is about finding out that a person he's attracted to is not attracted to him---Clinton reacted similarly---but we'll see if it sticks with him. As for Clinton's being upset about Brun expressing (which may be, as earlier noted, Brun's mistaking something related---a lack of sexual-fantastic pleasure---as) unattraction to Clinton, we have no indication that it stuck with him past that first reaction: he could well be simply relieved. I agree that the speculation has focused too much on that possibility.
--- Quote from: BenRG on 29 Oct 2020, 03:24 ---So, firstly, he has implied strongly that he would have dumped Elliot on the spot and left with Brun if she'd returned his feelings.
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Nuh-uh!---I mean *clears throat* that's not necessarily what would have happened. It's definitely high-grade asshattery---mentioning what may be construed, especially by someone as self-insecure as Elliot, as an attempt to `steal' the other's crush---but I think this could be further set-up for the polycule. I don't think he's making fun of Elliot's attraction, but not recognizing, in that state of mind, that maybe Elliot won't feel the same way about it.
If there are any errors in this message: the keyboard has been drinking---not me.
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