Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCDT 4391-4395 (Nov 9th -13th, 2020)
snufflebottoms:
--- Quote from: cybersmurf on 11 Nov 2020, 07:48 ---Clinton asked Brun how she felt about him. If her answer hurt him, it's entirely on him. If it destroys their friendship (which is yet to see), not asking that question wouldn't have changed much, I fear. Brun and Elliot is an entirely different story, because it was forced by a third party. Elliot would always have preferred their friendship. Mostly, Brun needs a bit of time to process all of this, both rationally and emotionally, but I think, in the end, it will work out.
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I disagree. Her answering being yes or no, absolutely he needs to accept the answer but him being hurt by "I'm picturing us having sex. yuck." is fair even though he asked if she was attracted to him. I mean if he blew up and ended the friendship, that's different but a bit of an "ouch. just a no is sufficient" is warranted.
I do also think it will all work out though.
Oenone:
--- Quote from: chris73 on 12 Nov 2020, 12:00 ---
--- Quote ---I thought she hit him because he was pulling her towards him roughly, based their body language. That’s why I think she reflexively hit him.
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I can see why that might be an explanation that suits better than mine (I'm not exactly impartial when it comes to Faye) but I see it as Faye knows shes stronger than and tougher than Marten, the strip has mentioned it, shes mentioned it etc etc so theres no real threat of danger also Faye knows Marten is hurting (and that Faye herself is a big part of that hurt), knows Marten is drunk yet she still drops him (by the way be very careful punching someone, its dangerous and the result of even one punch can lead to painful after effects that can last months or even cause death) instead of pushing him
away (she even has her hand on his chest) or leading him to his bedroom
But no its straight to the violence
I may have missed it but has there been a arc where Faye has had to deal with her bullying and violence towards her friends or was it dealt with quickly and spoken no more of?
*I've sidetracked myself here but basically Dan seems quite similar to Marten (a bit more successful and sure of himself) and Renee seems similar to Faye (with less violence) so I'm just hoping this is handled differently
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I’m not defending Faye and her tendency towards violence. I just feel like that particular instance was justified. Marten grabbed her while being really rude/aggressive.
Also, IMO Renee is the Marten here. She’s in a dead end job that she finds satisfying, she let a good friend move in after a fire, she’s been unlucky in love, and she might let her self-perceived limitations prevent her from pursuing the people and things she wants. She’s much less mean than Faye, and I don’t think she’s even even joked about hitting Brun or made fun of her appearance, which is something Faye has done to both Marten and Dora.
chris73:
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I’m not defending Faye and her tendency towards violence. I just feel like that particular instance was justified. Marten grabbed her while being really rude/aggressive.
Also, IMO Renee is the Marten here. She’s in a dead end job that she finds satisfying, she let a good friend move in after a fire, she’s been unlucky in love, and she might let her self-perceived limitations prevent her from pursuing the people and things she wants. She’s much less mean than Faye, and I don’t think she’s even even joked about hitting Brun or made fun of her appearance, which is something Faye has done to both Marten and Dora.
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Sorry but I disagree, he hasn't grabbed her at all. He has put his arm around her shoulders hats all(not saying its ok but its not as aggressive as grabbing) plus its cannon that shes stronger, tougher and better (at punching) than Marten, that Marten is physically inferior to Faye so Faye certainly isn't acting out fear but (IMHO) that what Marten is saying is a little too close for comfort and shes taken advantage of the situation to lay him out
Thats a good point you make about Renee/Marten though and I hadn't considered, if thats the case who would Dan be similar to?
Reaver:
--- Quote from: chris73 on 12 Nov 2020, 15:10 ---
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I’m not defending Faye and her tendency towards violence. I just feel like that particular instance was justified. Marten grabbed her while being really rude/aggressive.
Also, IMO Renee is the Marten here. She’s in a dead end job that she finds satisfying, she let a good friend move in after a fire, she’s been unlucky in love, and she might let her self-perceived limitations prevent her from pursuing the people and things she wants. She’s much less mean than Faye, and I don’t think she’s even even joked about hitting Brun or made fun of her appearance, which is something Faye has done to both Marten and Dora.
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Sorry but I disagree, he hasn't grabbed her at all. He has put his arm around her shoulders hats all(not saying its ok but its not as aggressive as grabbing) plus its cannon that shes stronger, tougher and better (at punching) than Marten, that Marten is physically inferior to Faye so Faye certainly isn't acting out fear but (IMHO) that what Marten is saying is a little too close for comfort and shes taken advantage of the situation to lay him out
Thats a good point you make about Renee/Marten though and I hadn't considered, if thats the case who would Dan be similar to?
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Faye also used to hit Marten for every.little.thing.
Wrong joke? PUNCH
Say something she didn't like? PUNCH.
Lightly flirt with him? PUNCH.
And Dan is clearly the Dale of the relationship.
Oenone:
I’m not disagreeing that Faye has been physically violent towards Marten. I’m just saying that if a guy friend came at me with a bunch of angry nonsense and tried to pull me close to him while drunk, I’d hit him. IMO there’s better examples of Faye being violent towards Marten or being manipulative. Like, the Dora/ underwear thing was bananas.
If Dan’s anyone, he’s emotionally healthy Dora. Not Renee’s first choice, but interested and willing to pursue her. He’s also gone to college and is pursuing a career he’s passionate about. Plus Dan and Dora had style glow-ups during college.
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