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--- Quote from: sitnspin on 01 Jan 2021, 06:45 ---The character is of Polynesian descent and, as far as I can recall, the books don't specify her accent, and she is not from the same settlement as Alex, it still works for me.
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IDK how accents work, Spin - I notice that immigrants seem to learn really fast, so, on the one hand, I'd guess that whatever Alex' and Bobbies' Terran ethnic backgrounds are, they wouldn't matter much after a about generation, but ... otoh, Germany is barely the size of California, and we have a "dialect continuum" that has linguists arguing whether it's correct to say that we all speak the same language. It's really that far apart, even for native speakers.

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--- Quote from: sitnspin on 01 Jan 2021, 06:45 ---Plus, Frankie Adams could use a Dickensian cockney accent and I would still be okay with it, cos... damn. :)

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Word.  :-D


And I immensely enjoy Adams' and Dominique Tippers' accents mixing up the default sort-of-AmerEnglish, it's just that I'm fascinated by the attention to all the little details that J.S. Corey put into especially themes of migration and ethnic differentiation in a space-faring society.

sitnspin:
For all I know, the region of Mars that Bobby is from has a strong Polynesian presence, in which case the accent could easily have persisted generationally, just as the Texan accent did where Alex grew up. Accents are weird and can fade or persist due to a wide range of influences. My point being that I have no idea what the cultural conditions of the intervening centuries has been, so really any accent combination is believable.

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--- Quote from: sitnspin on 01 Jan 2021, 07:10 ---For all I know, the region of Mars that Bobby is from has a strong Polynesian presence, in which case the accent could easily have persisted generationally, just as the Texan accent did where Alex grew up. Accents are weird and can fade or persist due to a wide range of influences. My point being that I have no idea what the cultural conditions of the intervening centuries has been, so really any accent combination is believable.

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It is, it's just fascinating to speculate about it, is what I guess I'm saying?

EDIT: And the series really makes a point of pointing it out, too - I'm just at the point where Bobby walks into a Texas-themed Martian bar, complete with Stetsons everywhere and barstools made up as saddles, and not one single caucasian face in sight ...  :laugh:


P.S.: And I guess it gets double fascinating when you mix all the ethnic backgrounds that 'we' tend to take to be so meaningfull - I loved how Corey let Alex speak with a Texan accent.

sitnspin:
My speculation is that given how the Martian settlement was a collection of separate habitation domes, each with their own individual communities and of differing cultural origins, no matter how many decades or centuries back, there would likely be quite a bit of dialect variation.

 
There was some quite noticeable variation in accent and dialect even within the same town I grew up in, which had less than 9K people in it.

And I agree that the way that ethnicity has different connotations off Earth than it does on the homeworld and the way cultures have deviated and evolved was a very clever creative choice.

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Speaking of attention to detail:

There's a scene where Bobby has a look at a tree-diagram of possible connections between people she suspects of making up a criminal enterprise, and she marks one of the entries as 'no longer accessible to me' by changing its colour (the weapons-dealer in question has become suspicious of her and wants no further contact).

Thing is that she changes the nodes' colour from red to blue - I actually had to rewind the scene to get it bcs it was so weird to me: Bobby associates red with 'positive' and blue with 'negative'.

I thought that was a really nice, subtly idea to emphasize that she didn't grow up under a blue sky and has never seen an ocean ...

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