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WCDT 4431-4435 (4th-8th of January, 2021)
shanejayell:
New strip up.
Of COURSE Robot Jail was built by Robots to appease humans...
brasca:
--- Quote from: shanejayell on 05 Jan 2021, 18:31 ---New strip up.
Of COURSE Robot Jail was built by Robots to appease humans...
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Were they wrong? Considering the advantages AIs possess as well as a rich fictional history of AIs turning against humans it’s a reasonable concern. In this webcomic there are a few instances of AIs joking about stealing nuclear launch codes.
TheEvilDog:
--- Quote from: shanejayell on 05 Jan 2021, 18:31 ---Of COURSE Robot Jail was built by Robots to appease humans...
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To be fair, in May's case she did embezzle funds in an attempt to buy a military aircraft. Even though her intention was to just be in in a body that was able to fly, from a human perspective, that's a nightmare. You have an AI that has enough understanding to engage in a criminal activity (subtle skimming of funds from millions of customers), who then went through presumably black market channels in an attempt to buy the plane. As humans have this habit of thought exercises and how a chain of events might play out, no one is going to say "Nah, she just wants to fly in the clouds". Its going to be "Oh shit, there's a rogue AI in the body of a plane. What if she held an airliner hostage? What if she wanted to kill someone?" Because they don't know why May wants the plane, just that she wants it is enough to be afraid.
And make no mistake, considering how long AI have been a part of the QCverse, those elder AI were probably well aware what could happen if one of their kind was seen as rogue, because they are still so new to the world, that every single one of those AI is shaping how Humanity views its creation. They're as afraid of rogue AI as humans would be. Robot Jail is a clear statement to Humanity - "We will deal with our problems and deal with them severely".
Gus_Smedstad:
--- Quote from: shanejayell on 04 Jan 2021, 19:40 ---"Imagine a infinite space, but you can't move, along with a immense perception of time passing."
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--- Quote from: Strong Bad ---Email is a like a prison. A prison with no walls. And no toilet.
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I'm actually a bit surprised by this backstory. I always assumed robots had a special jail because robots can be disembodied, and thus can be efficiently and cheaply incarcerated, and you don't really want to try and imprison some robot bodies, like Punchbot. You know, practical reasons, not the invention of a cabal of elder AI's.
May's glossing over one thing, which is that she stole money, and tried to obtain a combat chassis illegally, both of which are things society can't tolerate. Stealing also hurts other people.
That sort of thing has to be discouraged somehow. May doesn't seem to get that she did anything wrong, so just explaining things to her wasn't going to work. Punishment's the only thing that seems like it would deter her from trying to do it again. I think punishment sucks as a learning mechanism, but I'm not really sure what else you can do with sentients like May.
Once you're settled on punishment as your deterrent, then you can get into the details of what's acceptable and proportionate, and what's not.
Gus_Smedstad:
--- Quote from: brasca on 05 Jan 2021, 19:04 ---Were they wrong? Considering the advantages AIs possess as well as a rich fictional history of AIs turning against humans it’s a reasonable concern.
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I think humans should be worried about about Spookybot / Yay Newfriend.
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