Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCDT 4451-4455 (the 1st through 5th of February, 2021)
Gnabberwocky:
--- Quote from: SmilingCat on 31 Jan 2021, 20:30 ---A lack of self acceptance isn't an inherently masculine trait, though... Nor is the idea of feeling anxiety over having feelings for someone of the same gender.
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If I understand it correctly, toxic masculinity isn't "submitting to inherently masculine traits," it's more of a pressure to conform to the ideals of strength and solitude and whatnot that society views as traditionally masculine. It's true that conforming to the standards of others rather than accepting yourself isn't inherently masculine, but it is something that many men receive social pressure, whether conscious or unconscious, to do.
Gyrre:
--- Quote from: Gnabberwocky on 31 Jan 2021, 21:15 ---
--- Quote from: SmilingCat on 31 Jan 2021, 20:30 ---A lack of self acceptance isn't an inherently masculine trait, though... Nor is the idea of feeling anxiety over having feelings for someone of the same gender.
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If I understand it correctly, toxic masculinity isn't "submitting to inherently masculine traits," it's more of a pressure to conform to the ideals of strength and solitude and whatnot that society views as traditionally masculine. It's true that conforming to the standards of others rather than accepting yourself isn't inherently masculine, but it is something that many men receive social pressure, whether conscious or unconscious, to do.
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Another, more descriptive, term for it is "limiting masculinity".
SmilingCat:
--- Quote from: Gnabberwocky on 31 Jan 2021, 21:15 ---
--- Quote from: SmilingCat on 31 Jan 2021, 20:30 ---A lack of self acceptance isn't an inherently masculine trait, though... Nor is the idea of feeling anxiety over having feelings for someone of the same gender.
--- End quote ---
If I understand it correctly, toxic masculinity isn't "submitting to inherently masculine traits," it's more of a pressure to conform to the ideals of strength and solitude and whatnot that society views as traditionally masculine. It's true that conforming to the standards of others rather than accepting yourself isn't inherently masculine, but it is something that many men receive social pressure, whether conscious or unconscious, to do.
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Which still doesn't seem to apply in this case. Once again, Willow seems to be assuming toxic masculinity is an issue purely because Clinton is male.
Gnabberwocky:
Honest question: what makes you think it's not a factor? I didn't quite get your first argument.
jiw7:
Nice strip! ... but 'embrade' in panel 3 is :?
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