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WCDT 4451-4455 (the 1st through 5th of February, 2021)
Case:
--- Quote from: Gyrre on 05 Feb 2021, 18:10 ---
--- Quote from: Case on 05 Feb 2021, 09:25 ---
--- Quote from: Gyrre on 04 Feb 2021, 21:18 ---All sciences have their foundation in faith [imperical evidence, and 1+1=2]. The difference is that science uses faith as a starting point .
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That's ... not what Axioms are.
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Just watch the video. I said they explain it better for a reason.
"Science doesn't really need to be defended against the concept of faith. Only some of its misuses." Is the first point they make.
The underlying point of the whole video is that science doesn't deal in absolutes (except for absolute zero), that blind unquestioning faith in science causes people to act unscientifically.
[The video is 8 years old]
EDIT: Moving away from Euclid's postulates when dealing with a 3 dimensional space is one of the things they bring up. Then there's Kurt Gödel's work in regards to mathematic axioms.
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Errrrh - you seriously want to explain my job to me?
I'd urge you again to revisit the concept of axioms.
--- Quote from: Wingy on 06 Feb 2021, 09:36 ---
--- Quote from: Case on 04 Feb 2021, 08:44 ---Paul Muad'Dib would like to have a word ...
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Maud'Dib was a self-admitted coward. And Einstein suffered from an inability to accept the consequences of his own results, which is also cowardice, just writ a bit larger.
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What? :psyduck:
Guairdegan:
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 03 Feb 2021, 08:56 ---
--- Quote from: Guairdegan ---Boys should be free to wrestle, be physical, be rough and tumble, and just be boys
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Welcome, new person!
You went straight to having common ground with me.
They should also be free to cry without being beaten for it (happened to me) and free to accept a "No" from a woman graciously without losing face. When they're not, that's the cultural attitude set that is (my understanding of) "toxic masculinity".
Why Willow brought it up I can't figure out unless she has an idea that the only reason a man would hesitate to acknowledge feelings toward another man is traditional homophobia.
EDIT:
I've gotten lost in my shower.
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Yes, I remember very well that any show of emotion from a boy resulted in punishment from teachers. Never physical, but being brought to the front of the class so everyone could "see the sissy" was the norm. At home it was "Shut up crying. Keep it up and I'll give you a reason to cry."
Thrillho:
--- Quote from: Guairdegan on 06 Feb 2021, 11:14 ---
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 03 Feb 2021, 08:56 ---
--- Quote from: Guairdegan ---Boys should be free to wrestle, be physical, be rough and tumble, and just be boys
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Welcome, new person!
You went straight to having common ground with me.
They should also be free to cry without being beaten for it (happened to me) and free to accept a "No" from a woman graciously without losing face. When they're not, that's the cultural attitude set that is (my understanding of) "toxic masculinity".
Why Willow brought it up I can't figure out unless she has an idea that the only reason a man would hesitate to acknowledge feelings toward another man is traditional homophobia.
EDIT:
I've gotten lost in my shower.
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Yes, I remember very well that any show of emotion from a boy resulted in punishment from teachers. Never physical, but being brought to the front of the class so everyone could "see the sissy" was the norm. At home it was "Shut up crying. Keep it up and I'll give you a reason to cry."
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This is the version of masculinity you're lamenting being out of style?
Gyrre:
--- Quote from: Case on 06 Feb 2021, 09:42 ---[snip]
Errrrh - you seriously want to explain my job to me?
I'd urge you again to revisit the concept of axioms.
[snip]
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[No smugness is intended in any of the following.]
I'm not. I'm citing the video.
I'm a biologist, not a mathematician. I work with basic arithmetics and some statistics more than anything else when it comes to math in my job.
Though, just for thoroughness' sake, I did look up the definitions for 'axiom' and 'postulate'. I had wondered whether there was a distiction between the two, but apparently that's only "sometimes". Not sure how you'll feel about the descriptions, though.
Mr_Rose:
Yes, axioms are arbitrarily defined as true within a given paradigm; that is just for that paradigm though.
The cellular biology paradigm assumes MRS GREN holds true for all life but we know there are life forms where that s not 100% true 100% of the time (virii for a start) so we need to define a new paradigm.
Choosing a particular set of axioms (your paradigm) to work with when addressing a particular topic is a matter of convenience and convention, not faith, and changing the paradigm if the current one proves insufficient is the expected outcome, not heresy.
Now, what was your actual point, please? Because I’m genuinely not sure and no, saying “watch the video” again is not communicating that.
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