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WCDT 4451-4455 (the 1st through 5th of February, 2021)

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Thrillho:

--- Quote from: Guairdegan on 02 Feb 2021, 11:46 ---I don't feel attacked by the concept, that's easily laughed off.
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It being brought up in the comic motivated you enough to register on the forum just to criticise it. Is that laughing it off?


--- Quote ---The problem is the execution, and persistent accusation. I've been griped at for holding the door open for a woman (yes, lady, I know your arm isn't broken), griped at for standing when a woman enters the room (if I didn't I'd feel my mother and grandmother slapping me on the back of the head), and for offering to help a woman with some physical task. I don't do these things because I feel that women are weak or inferior,  I do these things because I feel I should help someone when I can, and I was taught to treat women with respect. Today, those actions are considered to be toxic.
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Why is your feeling of doing what you think is respectful more important than what someone is telling you is a respectful way to behave towards them?

It sucks that your mother and grandmother hit you. Parents shouldn't hit their kids.

Do you hold the door for men? Do you rise when men enter the room? Is rising when a woman enters a room helping them? Should men not be treated with respect?

bright:
At this point I'd have to say a Willow and Clinton match up seems much more interesting than anything more happening between Elliot and Clinton.

Farideh:

--- Quote from: Guairdegan on 02 Feb 2021, 11:46 ---I watched the video linked in an earlier message, and the ideas expressed are correct in some points but quite wrong in others. I've heard Aragorn used as a prime example of toxic masculinity. The movie softened his character and introduced the idea that he was afraid to become king, but the book shows him in a harsher, more "manly" light. If the two that recorded the video ever read the book, it'll be interesting to see if their opinion changes.

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They might have read the books, but that's besides the point. The YouTube channel is called 'Cinema Therapy', and thus they discuss how Aragorn is portrayed in the movies.

hedgie:

--- Quote from: Thrillho on 02 Feb 2021, 12:02 ---Do you hold the door for men? Do you rise when men enter the room? Is rising when a woman enters a room helping them? Should men not be treated with respect?

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I don’t do the rise thing, unless it’s a friend, and I’ll open/hold doors for anyone, or offer to help them with any task that I’m for which I’m well-suited.  And I live in one of the archetypal California University towns.  I must be doing something wrong, because no one has said anything negative.

Mordhaus:

--- Quote from: Farideh on 01 Feb 2021, 20:06 ---What do you mean by 'hiding their tracks'? Yes, toxic femininity exists even if it isn't named such. Just like toxic/limiting masculinity restricts men ('men don't cry/feel emotions beside anger/love children/hug other men'), toxic/limiting femininity restricts women ('women belong in the house/suck at math/deserve to be paid less than men/only exist to bear children'). Women have been fighting that for centuries, though, whereas the realization that men are also harmed by stereotypes around their gender is a more recent one (hence the more 'modern' name for it).

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It was a humorous reference that women are better at covering up evidence, inferring that they are better with long term plots than men. Sorry if it seemed otherwise.

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