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WCDT 4451-4455 (the 1st through 5th of February, 2021)
QuestionableIntentions:
--- Quote from: Oenone on 03 Feb 2021, 21:25 ---Yeah, tbh this interaction made me dislike Clinton a little more. It’s rude to tell people that a tool they use to get through the world is not real. Tarot, at least, fits into some of my Wiccans friends’ spiritual practice, and astrology has some beautiful symbolism to it. I don’t see why he’d be so dismissive of it to someone he just met.
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It maybe rude, but it is also correct.
The problem with such made up, arbitrary, untested systems is thst their results are also arbitrary and made up.
If you roll a dice to decide between six options than onc in a while that option may be the correct one, but mostly it will be wrong.
Willow is absolutely wrong in beleieving the process doesn't matter. It means you can get whatever results you want. That's how get results like "my god says I have to kill you"
Gnabberwocky:
I don't know that my first post said what I wanted it to.
I'm seeing people post a lot of examples of really extreme religion, to the point of discrimination and violence. Obviously, if you're using religion or a similar belief to do that and excuse yourself from the consequences, of course that's wrong. But if you choose to believe in, say, astrology because it makes you feel good, what reason is there to stop you? You're not hurting anyone, your beliefs aren't offensive by definition, both your process and your end product are basically completely harmless...if all it does is give you an extra sense of security and belonging, no one should stand in your way.
QuestionableIntentions:
--- Quote from: Gnabberwocky on 03 Feb 2021, 23:36 ---I don't know that my first post said what I wanted it to.
I'm seeing people post a lot of examples of really extreme religion, to the point of discrimination and violence. Obviously, if you're using religion or a similar belief to do that and excuse yourself from the consequences, of course that's wrong. But if you choose to believe in, say, astrology because it makes you feel good, what reason is there to stop you? You're not hurting anyone, your beliefs aren't offensive by definition, both your process and your end product are basically completely harmless...if all it does is give you an extra sense of security and belonging, no one should stand in your way.
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There are plenty of examples online of people refusing to date people of the wrong astrology sign.
And the problem is that these "harmless" believes are symptoms of a larger problem: The refusal of the scientific method.
Choosing comfort over truth.
sitnspin:
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
It's not necessarily the specific beliefs one has that are dangerous or harmful, it is the mindset that let one believe those things that is dangerous. The beliefs are a symptom, not the disease.
Cornelius:
To be fair, I sometimes use tarot to make sense of the world, in a way. But it's not because I believe the cards in themselves are telling me something. It's more of an exercise to take the images that turn up as a prompt to think of the issue in another way. And that could be done with any set of pictures, really.
The other way I use tarot, is to play cards, which annoys my few wiccan friends to no end.
But well, as to being harmless... I know someone who took a set of tarot cards on board, when working as a sailor. Once the crew saw him laying them out in a game of patience, a lot of them did treat him with another kind of deference. If your belief in these things influences how you look at people, and who to take as an authority, it can make a big difference. And these people can be led, then, by nothing more than some esoteric patter. Which anyone can pick up in about 15 minutes. And that is dangerous.
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