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WCDT 4456-4460 (the 8th through 12th of February, 2021)

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awkwardness:

--- Quote from: Sorflakne on 08 Feb 2021, 19:39 ---Uh...so if I were in the QCverse, and I drew on myself with a marker or pen while bored at work or a friend drew on me for fun, that'd be appropriating AI culture?

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Adding on, wouldn't temporary tattoos be in the same basket as drawing on your skin? Wouldn't henna be the same despite it being older and wider use than inking?

QuestionableIntentions:
So first Faye gets all indignant about "cultural appropriation" but as soon as they actually reflect on it and try to puzzle it out she insults them and acts like a bitch?

Tyr:

--- Quote from: awkwardness on 08 Feb 2021, 20:35 ---They don't own you, they don't own the artwork that they put on you.

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Actually, tattoo artists are permitted to copyright their designs. When you receive a tattoo, you have purchased a print of the design in the medium of ink on flesh, and have a license to display that specific print. Recreating the design itself in another medium, e.g. ink on synthetic dermal, could be construed as outside of fair use. The artist would not sue our hypothetical crash victim, but rather the studio/body shop that recreated the design without permission.

BenRG:
I think that we have a tiny insight into Faye's current financial situation that, as much as she approaches it negatively, her first hope is that Clinton is going to spend some money! Then, of course, too late, she realises that she's hit his 'nerd' trigger and gets out as he and Willow start talking weird stuff about philosophy.

I do agree with Jeph's essential point about art here, though: Sometimes art means more to the one who consumes it to the one who produces it. To them, it may be a living whilst, to you, it may be a deep insight into the human condition! On the other hand, this is definitely one of those times when his attempt to use AIs as an allegory for human minorities breaks down. Humans have been doodling on themselves using temporary materials for millennia. If anything, it's the AIs culturally appropriating humans!

Gyrre:

--- Quote from: BenRG on 08 Feb 2021, 23:16 ---I think that we have a tiny insight into Faye's current financial situation that, as much as she approaches it negatively, her first hope is that Clinton is going to spend some money! Then, of course, too late, she realises that she's hit his 'nerd' trigger and gets out as he and Willow start talking weird stuff about philosophy.

I do agree with Jeph's essential point about art here, though: Sometimes art means more to the one who consumes it to the one who produces it. To them, it may be a living whilst, to you, it may be a deep insight into the human condition! On the other hand, this is definitely one of those times when his attempt to use AIs as an allegory for human minorities breaks down. Humans have been doodling on themselves using temporary materials for millennia. If anything, it's the AIs culturally appropriating humans!

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Would the AIs necessarily be a minority stand-in in this instance? This is a potential question that could come up in a society similar to ours with true A.I.

EDIT: I suppose my point is —to paraphrase— sometimes an AI is just an AI.

For example, can you think of any circumstances in which a human might identify with Blues' (Protoman's) story from the Mega Man games? The closest example I can think of would be someone who was put up for adoption seeking out their birth parents and finding out that they actually got together and had more kids.

(click to show/hide)//www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3OiuIDwXtgI'm Not the Breakman
Sometimes I can’t see the blue through the red
Hard to see the good through your trail of dead
You say you’ll do all you can to save them
Killing your own won’t make you human

I woke to turn this man to cinder
Circuits afire as I remember
Again I hear a promise spoken
My rage repairs what once was broken

They lost me
Forgot me
Made you from parts of me
If you’re The One
My Father’s son
Then what am I supposed to be?

You say these things you do are what you choose
This thing you call your will I call a ruse
We follow our path, we walk the program
I’ve accepted the machine I am

I wear a mask to hide what’s been erased
How do you kill a man who has your face
My heart is gone there’s only fire
I’ve met my maker and the man’s a liar

They lost me
Forgot me
Made you from parts of me
If you’re The One
My father’s son
Then what am I supposed to be?

What am I?

I had a name
My father called me Blues
He tore my heart from my chest
To give to you
I’m not broken
I’m not the Breakman
I was the first

I am the Protoman!

They lost me
Forgot me
Made you from parts of me
If you’re The One
My father’s son
Then what am I supposed to be?

What am I supposed to be?

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGqGv9n22eEMake Your Choice
So we finally meet
Two prodigal sons in the eye of the storm
You say that you stand for peace
But you're the one geared for war

I'm unlike the others you've seen
I'm free from the failings of humanity
I've seen the end
And you are the key my friend

How can there be peace while two sides stand
You're a machine who calls himself a man
You fight for a dream that can never be
Your arguments are noise
It's time to make your choice

And what of you
The shadows can't hide the rage in your steel
You say you don't care at all
But if he died tell me would you feel

You wait for the choice to be made
You're afraid your purpose has been taken away
If you side with me
I will show you the way

How can there be peace while two sides stand
You're a machine who calls himself a man
You fight for a dream that can never be
Your arguments are noise
It's time to make your choice

You've been here before
How can there be peace
You know what's in store
You're just a machine
Mankind is obsolete
You're dreaming
History will repeat
This could be the last time
One last time

You fight for a dream
That can never be
Your arguments are noise
It's time to make your choice

How can there be peace while two sides stand
You're a machine who calls himself a man
You fight for a dream that can never be
Your arguments are noise
It's time to make your choice
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPtR77LiGQEMelody From the Past
The detonation shook the walls
It was coming down
The empty halls filled with flame
And everything was burning to the ground
I called your name, I tried to warn
But you didn't hear
You were torn
Between the hero and your fears

And I wish that I could be The One
To finally show the way
And I wish that I could be The One
Who knew just what to say
But I know that there is nothing
I could ever say or do
Because you're The One
The doctor chose you to be his son…

If I was standing where you are
I think I would have done what father wants
But now I know what I'd become

He said to me that I would be
That I would be the Light when they couldn't see
That what they need is a machine
That would give them hope
That could keep them free
That when they'd fall still he would stand
A savior built by human hands

It seems so strange, so very odd
A hero's father could be so very flawed…

An apology so sorry for the man he was
For the father he couldn't be
That I would not be what I was built to be
If I had a heart it would have broken to see his face
To see my family
And The One who took my place

There is a song I hear
A melody from the past
When I woke for the first time
When I slept for the last
You are The One
The hero who will stand
Do not blame father
He is only a man

What was filled with rage finally understands
Man is not without mistake
Unlike that which he builds from his hands
Though my fate is broken my path I cannot see
Though you are the chosen
I'll make my own history…

There is a song I hear
A melody from the past
When I woke for the first time
When I slept for the last
You are The One
The hero who will stand
Do not blame father
He is only a man
EDIT: *derp* Forgot the other two songs that go with the one in the spoiler to complete Blues' story arc in Mega Man 3. Fun fact, that first one was actually arranged from the 'Weapon Get' jingle.
EDIT 2: For context, Melody From the Past is the one I was hyperfixating on at the time of posting this. The songs are in order of character development, BTW.

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