Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCDT Aug 16th - Aug 20th (4591-4595)
Marco:
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--- Quote from: badbum61 on 15 Aug 2021, 19:46 ---She's also an anomaly among the Augustuses (Augustii?) in having actual chill, so that's reason to have confidence that she can.
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Some traits skip a generation, or so I’m told.
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Maybe unchillness is a father's trait.
BenRG:
--- Quote from: Marco on 16 Aug 2021, 06:05 ---
--- Quote from: hedgie on 15 Aug 2021, 22:41 ---
--- Quote from: badbum61 on 15 Aug 2021, 19:46 ---She's also an anomaly among the Augustuses (Augustii?) in having actual chill, so that's reason to have confidence that she can.
--- End quote ---
Some traits skip a generation, or so I’m told.
--- End quote ---
Maybe unchillness is a father's trait.
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That would explain a lot.
dutchrvl:
--- Quote from: Marco on 16 Aug 2021, 06:05 ---
--- Quote from: hedgie on 15 Aug 2021, 22:41 ---
--- Quote from: badbum61 on 15 Aug 2021, 19:46 ---She's also an anomaly among the Augustuses (Augustii?) in having actual chill, so that's reason to have confidence that she can.
--- End quote ---
Some traits skip a generation, or so I’m told.
--- End quote ---
Maybe unchillness is a father's trait.
--- End quote ---
Possible, but chillness also often comes with age/life experience. Especially when said life experience was not necessarily easy, and given what we know at this point about Claire/Clinton's father + Clinton losing his hand + Claire being trans, I think it's fair to say that Aurelia likely had plenty of rough experiences in the past.
PS: please note that I don't mean that Claire being trans in itself made things rough for Aurelia, but rather that they are likely to have had quite a few negative experiences due to people in their surroundings being assholes/closed-minded about it.
oddtail:
OK, I think my suspension of disbelief can't handle this.
I *think* I understand what the comic is trying to go for - extreme intelligence doesn't automatically mean making good decisions or emotional maturity - but that can justify Yay slipping up and saying too much. Friday's comic worked for me alright in that respect.
What makes *no* sense to me is Yay elaborating on that after the moment is past and clarifying what exactly they meant and stating explicitly why this is a big deal. Why not just say "I've already said too much, please don't say anything about any of this to anyone"? If Yay has that low a level of impulse control that they are compelled to explain everything in detail and barely stop short of drawing a detailed technical diagram of their distributed consciousness, they would've shared the secrect of their existence before now - a long time before now, in fact. Lampshading it with a joke about "mom vibes" doesn't work for me.
YMMV, but this is the most baffled I am at a QC strip in a *long* time. We're talking years. It doesn't work as humour and it doesn't work as drama for me - because I can't conceive of a scenario where the confession happens, and I don't understand *why* Yay feels they need to confess everything, without my also assuming they would've overshared elsewhere/elsewhen.
Or to put it another way: Yay is saying sharing this is a Very Big Deal while continuing to share it. That doesn't compute for me (pun fully intended).
EDIT: one problem is, if Yay is behaving as a mildly dysfunctional regular person despite being a god-level AI, the fact of their BEING a god-level AI increasingly becomes what Tv Tropes refers to as "informed ability". If they're a super-intellect... how does the story or Yay's actions present any evidence of that? The comic just wants me to take its word for it.
EDIT 2: one way I can reconcile the apparent contradiction is if Yay either doesn't have full control over any of the sub-instances/bodies of themselves (the whole being literally more than the sum of its parts, and individual instances of Yay being closer to an actual non-god person than the whole gestalt consciousness) - but that doesn't answer the question "why hasn't their secret been accidentally shared before?". Another possibility is that Yay is superhumanly intelligent, but still vastly overestimates their own mental capability - we only have their word for how intelligent/superior they are, and they've proven to be very smug before. But I don't *think* that's what the comic wants me to think, based on contextual clues. A third option is that Yay has an emotional crisis because the recent (in-universe) days or weeks is literally the first time they've had ANY meaningful, non-incidental contact with others. And they couldn't handle it and crashed-and-burnt pretty much immediately (and the confession being evidence of that emotional crash-and-burn). But that, while it works with what I've seen in the comic, is still very loose speculation on my part.
EDIT 3: re-reading the comic, I think it's the first panel. Yay is offered an IMMEDIATE way out by being told they weren't fully understood. They could say "yes, that's a very big deal." and not elaborate. Why, then, continue to dig themselves deeper? The very same comic states they are capable of running literally millions of simulations of what will happen if they take a certain action. Why can't they apply that processing power to considering what to say next? Again, I understand failure to do so in the heat of the moment. But certainly not at the stage where they're taking their time to explain everything. They're clearly coherent enough to talk at length. So they should be able to put that super-intellect to use in doing damage control, and I can't conceive of a plausible explanation as to why they don't.
Marco:
I suppose Yay would run those millions of simulations about what to say, when and to whom, if they where working on a conscious level. But it seems to be through some kind of malfunction, maybe due to expressing emotions to some other being than a cat or a dog for the first time. Hercules or the Borzois are much better in keeping secrets, anyway.
Ok, they expressed emotions to Roko before, but Roko is an AI, so telling her AI stuff may be easily blocked in a conscious level...
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