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WCDT Nov 8 - Nov 13th (4651-4655)
Tova:
--- Quote from: St.Clair on 09 Nov 2021, 02:20 ---Here's a graphic from twenty years ago, and I can assure you it was a thing even further back.
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I can assure you that the types of people on 4chan didn't just spring into existence in 2003 either.
Potato Farmer:
--- Quote from: oddtail on 09 Nov 2021, 00:46 ---"level of furry" is an idea made up by non-furries who both want to shit on furries *and* want to justify drooling over anime catgirls, but they couldn't handle the cognitive dissonance. So they made up a stupid arbitrary metric explaining why their own kinks are Not Creepy, Actually.
Which I mean, fair. Any kink is creepy from a certain perspective. But:
a) Furries are the Internet's favourite punching bag, and it's tiresome because it's so arbitrary (see this: https://xkcd.com/471/ );
b) Hating on furries quite often has homophobic and transphobic undertones, because the furry fandom has been very LGBT-friendly pretty much since its inception, and any attempts by e.g. (crypto)fascists to infilitrate or co-opt it have always met with a strong pushback (compared to some other fandoms or hobbies).
Or to put it in simpler terms: hating on furries is a very "4chan" thing, as is trying to put "how furry is it?" on a scale. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.
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Oh yeah definitely. Whenever someone says that it's not furry if it's just the ears and a tail I tell them to shut their trap and accept that they enjoy furry content.
It's a person with animalistic traits. I don't care if it's not 'all the way' or whatever they'd want to call it, it's furry. The only people who care about the distinction between furry and non-furry are the ones who want to be free to shit on furries, which means there's no reason to comply with their ideas of where the line is drawn, especially when that line is extremely convenient in how they still get to enjoy catgirls and the like without having to face their own bigotry and hypocrisy.
Marco:
--- Quote from: snubnose on 08 Nov 2021, 07:43 ---
--- Quote from: oddtail on 08 Nov 2021, 00:58 ---[...] and I'm a furry, [...]
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Wait, what ?
... more terms to google ...
Oh, ok. Not really a too clearly defined term, it seems. Fan of animal inspired characters, such as werewolves.
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Am I imagining things, or Jeph just read yesterday's forum and made the "what is a furry?" joke on the spot?
dutchrvl:
--- Quote from: oddtail on 08 Nov 2021, 07:54 ---OK, I assumed most people on the English-speaking Internet were aware of the furry fandom. Even if through a somewhat negative lens, most of the time.
But yeah, "a furry" refers to either an animal character anthropomorphised to a large degree, a fan of fiction or art featuring such characters, or to a person with an alter ego (often used when interacting online) that's an anthropomorphic animal.
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This is interesting to me. Would that make any massive fan of donald duck/mickey mouse etc. a furry? It doesn't matter anyway, if people feel they are furries, they are furries. Never understood the people who get weirded out by the term, unless they have completely misguided notions on what it means.
oddtail:
--- Quote from: dutchrvl on 09 Nov 2021, 05:24 ---
--- Quote from: oddtail on 08 Nov 2021, 07:54 ---OK, I assumed most people on the English-speaking Internet were aware of the furry fandom. Even if through a somewhat negative lens, most of the time.
But yeah, "a furry" refers to either an animal character anthropomorphised to a large degree, a fan of fiction or art featuring such characters, or to a person with an alter ego (often used when interacting online) that's an anthropomorphic animal.
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This is interesting to me. Would that make any massive fan of donald duck/mickey mouse etc. a furry? It doesn't matter anyway, if people feel they are furries, they are furries. Never understood the people who get weirded out by the term, unless they have completely misguided notions on what it means.
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I think there's a social component of being a furry. Kinda like "trekkie" implies being part of a certain fan community in addition to enjoying Star Trek.
In general, I think furries are vaguely defined for a very "I'll know one when I see one" reason. You know fursonas, the fictional furry alter egos people have that I mentioned earlier? I've known a guy whose fursona was a train. A train with no humanlike physical characteristics, mind you. I've met more than one person whose fursona was a human. Sure, those "fursonas" are in part at least tongue-in-cheek, but they exist. On their face, they make no sense and don't qualify as "furry". But they're accepted as fursonas because their "owners" are part of the furry fandom.
And there are plenty of people whose fursonas are fictional animals, animal hybrids, griffins, dragons and other mythological creatures. They are not technically anthro animals, but nobody really cares that much. EDIT: and taurs are, like, the most furry thing ever, and they're clearly not even close to actual animals. A taur is like a centaur, except the lower half is any four-legged animal (like a lion, for instance), and the upper half is a furry character instead of a human. I'm pretty sure I've never seen a taur character outside furry fandom circles.
On the other hand, when making fun of edgelord Batman fans who insist Batman should be serious and dark and brooding, the joke is made quite often that "Batman" is Bruce Wayne's fursona. And while I've seen - again, tongue-in-cheek - elaborate justifications of this position, and it *technically* fits, very few people would make a serious claim that Batman is actually a furry in any meaningful sense. Why? Because of social significance and intention.
Reminds me of a quote of what Salvador Dali allegedly said: "The only difference between me and a madman is that I am not one.". Being a furry is kind of an inverse of that. The only difference between me and a non-furry is that I *am* one.
So - is a huge fan of Mickey Mouse a furry? Not automatically. *can* a huge fan of MM be considered a furry based on liking MM a lot, and nothing else? Sure, why not. I think the general attitude among furries is "everyone's invited* ", and I think that impacts the definition being very loose and broad.
*Except Nazis. Nazi furs, famously, can f*ck off.
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