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dutchrvl:

--- Quote from: neurocase on 17 Nov 2021, 02:37 ---
--- Quote from: Oenone on 16 Nov 2021, 20:46 ---Oof. I don’t see Claire as being a bully here — she made up some stories while pretending to be a calf whose mom has four udders. She was being ridiculous.

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This was my thinking, too. They're completely anonymous internet personas. I think she was just having fun with it by making up stuff about her brother the MommyMilkers cinematic universe version, not the actual person. Cowboy phobia seems too 'on-brand' for the whole thing to have any actual basis in reality, and it's not as though making up that sort of thing affects their real lives. I saw it as a bit of harmless pretend fun. Clinton was clearly worried that Claire was going to spill real tea of some description, but a degree of paranoia is always his baseline.

I think it's a bit quick to judge before we even know Clinton's reaction, rather than his kneejerk "DON'T DO THAT" in relation to thinking Claire was going to give away real personal stuff.

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I don't think Clare is a bully either, but I do think her general behavior especially towards Clinton regularly veers into the unpleasant side.

W.r.t. the above (underlining mine): I respectfully disagree. it may seem harmless to make something up as pretend fun for an online persona, but it really isn't.
It's one thing if 2 people agree to have fun with it and make up fun/shocking things for each others' online personas, it's entirely another to do this unilaterally without the other's permission.
Is it his anonymous internet persona? Sure. Does it therefore not matter what Claire makes up about that persona? Yet it absolutely does, because it is his persona, and whatever Claire says about that persona will directly affect how others in the online community will continue to interact with Clinton's persona, and therefore his very real experience when being online as that persona. So yes, it does actually affect a person's real life.
And this is not even getting into the fact that many people develop pretty significant (emotional) connections with their online personas, indeed their personas are extensions of themselves and their online lives are extensions of their real life. As such, just making shit up/spreading rumors/saying whatever about a persona, whether true or not, has a very real effect even if it was meant as 'harmless pretend fun'.
 

oddtail:
Yeah, when someone is present incognito as a fictional persona, that *is* an extension of that person, and while it may not be AS bad to make up stuff about the persona as about the real person, it's still pretty bad.

As a person who's met plenty of people only as anthropomorphic rabbits or foxes and whatever, in communities where those foxes and rabits were understood to be as real to the person inhabiting them as they wanted them to be*, I feel pretty strongly about this.

Clinton is not a furry of course (yet), and his streaming avatar is not important to his everyday interactions, so any damage is minor, but the same principle stands.

*Granted, my formative years as a furry were when the Internet was different. But I don't think this aspect of the furry fandom changed that much. People can be a different person on the Internet, and furries (that I've met) seem to treat this constructed identity as serously as the person constructing it.

dutchrvl:
Also, not to belabor the point, but it's not up to Claire to decide how Clinton's online character is 'fleshed out'.

Anyway, I'm sure this will be revisited soon enough, likely by Clinton having to remind Claire why this is not really OK.
In the meantime, poor Claire for getting this reaction from her mom. Aurelia's reaction is understandable of course, but not helpful given Claire's anxiety/uncertainty about finding a library job :( 

Roborat:
Interesting, same author's comment on the same day for QC and SP. And I see where Claire's facial expressions come from.

Farideh:
New comic.

Marten will cheer Claire up, but who will do that for Aurelia? Petting Cosmo is always good, but still. Maybe Clinton will come over to complain about his sister and Aurelia can offload on him.

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