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est:
so, i've played Ninja Gaiden & liked it.  i'm playing Prince of Persia: Sands of Time & am realising why there is so much hype surrounding this game.  when the price comes down i'll also be buying Prince of Persia: Warrior Within.

the reason i love these games is that while you fight to get through the game, there are also puzzles and so forth to challenge the brain (a little) as well as the reflexes.  i like the acrobatic nature of the characters because it gives more options in combat & keeps fighting interesting (it's not all just PUNCH PUNCH KICK, REPEAT).

what other action-adventure games like this should i be looking at, and why?  i'd like names, links, and reasons why you think the game is awesome.  hopefully the game will be from the last couple of years, or perhaps an upcoming title.

i have a feeling that i should also be looking at new entries to the Tenchu:Stealth Assassins line of games.  anyone know about any other stuff like this?

Digs:
Yes, spatial movement is delicious.

I kind of thought that the fighting system in Prince of Persia was, you know, crap.

happybirthdaygelatin:
The Legacy of Kain series is a pretty decent one.  The first two games, LoK:  Blood Omen (weird isometric 3/4 kind of view though) and LoK:  Soul Reaver were both on the first playstation.  It's more meaty on the puzzle then the action side though as they've progressed Soul Reaver 2 (on the PS2, I'm not sure of it was ported to Xbox if that is all you have) and the last one to come out, LoK: Defiance have made attempts to balance plaforming/puzzling/fighting I think.  They both deal with vampires but not quite in such as cheese filled way.  The Blood Omen games deal with the charecter Kain him self, Soul Reaver 1 and 2 with Raziel, and Defiance with both charecters.

I've heard good things about both recent Jax and Ratchet and Clank games but again don't know if you're 'Box only.

I really enjoy the Tenchu games but alot of the newer stealth oriented games have made them look quite weaker with substantialy more intilgent enemy AI.  I'm hoping that this is something they rectify in the new game as I honestly find ninja assasins five hundred times more interesting then anything that comes out of the "brain" of Clancy.  

The Punisher game was alot better done I'd imagine but I'd say it's more worth a long rental or drop in price purchase.

Digs:
Ratchet and Clank is awesome, Bello.

ElRodente:
woo! i played ninja gaiden for the first time today

got my ass kicked by the first boss first time round

used wall jumps and beat him the second try :)

man that game is ace

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