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explaining straightedge
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24_hour_revenge_therapy:
--- Quote from: nickyandthefuture ---I don't smoke, drink, do drugs, or whatever. I'm also a vegan. I don't see how the two things have anything to do with each other.
With the drinking thing, it's really never been a problem - if someone offers me a beer, I say, "no, thanks." That's pretty much the end of it. I don't expect anyone to suck my dick because of the things I don't do.
People get a little weird about meat, but not being an asshole makes even the most awkward social events navigable. Also, I've talked about the vegan thing on this board before, so I'm not going to bore everyone by going into it again...
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being edge and being vegan are mutually exclusive. i have really good friends that are edge, and eat meat. i have good friends that are vegan and drink. i just mentioned that i was vegan, and people started asking me all about it.
and i don't expect people to start sucking my dick because i'm edge (would that even work? "hey baby, i'm straightedge" "ohmygod!! lets go to my car so i can slobber on your soldier!!" yeah, i don't think so), it's just an important part of who i am. i like to talk about it. if people don't wanna talk about it, i'm also a writer, i love to read, music is pretty much the fundemental reason for my being, and i like comics and cartoons.
if anyone wants to talk about that, lemme know.
fin:
the individual tenets(sp?) of straightedge-ness as i understand*, such as not drinking, smoking, sleeping around etc are stand up ideas and i have respcect for anybody that follows them. What i find silly (dumb silly) is the whole religiion** aspect of it, and the idea of breaking edge and excluding somebody from your club who doesnt share youre *exact**** beliefs. maybe i'm missing the point or maybe all the sXe's are****.
*i probally dont.
**not as in god, but as is system of belief.
***i may be wrong, im in a mildly drunken philisophical mood.
****is it true that the whole X thing sstarted with showing solidarity to the underage kids at gigs, if so, its a cool idea taken to a silly extreme.
24_hour_revenge_therapy:
--- Quote from: James ---
--- Quote from: 24_hour_revenge_therapy ---ok, we'll start with you.
because, and i'm gonna explain this one, that's how we dance.
hardcore kids don't mosh the same way a metal kid does. they have a more laid back, push push shove shove type thing. punk kids kinda do that, with a slam or a pogo thrown in. we like to throw kicks. punches. i have one friend that cartwheels into crowds. call it adrenaline. call it masochism. hell if i know. i'm not into it, but honestly, theres no anger attached to it. i've been knocked fucking senseless by my best friend. it happens. if you don't wanna get hit, just stay away from the pit. it's that simple.
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Thank you for starting with me and thank you for answering my query. I still do not get it though, that I will admit. The issue is further confused by the straightedge couple I live with, who insist that "there is no actual hitting - everybody has their own space", until they are in the presence of other S-X-E (straight/edge) people when they are suddenly like "HELL YES THAT WAS AWESOME I KICKED A STRANGER'S JAW CLEAN OFF TONIGHT". They are good people who I wish well for in my heart but they kind of turn into raving arseharpies around the issue of their subculture.
Yours in puzzlement,
James
x<--- this is a kiss not a sXe cross or like "exxed-up" hands or whatever. I'm not gay though, I swear.
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haha. glad i could *kinda* clear things up. sounds like you live with a couple of people who are a little hypocritical. my friends GLEEFULLY admit to the fact that they usually aim at people. me, actually. they usually aim at me. my friends suck. anywho, yeah, it's a pretty macho thing, and honestly, i'm not really into it. but, at the same time, as long as everyone is having a good old time, i don't really care. if someone is standing RIGHT NEXT TO the pit, and start complaining about getting hit, well, that's stupid. stand up front, or in the back. that's where i go.
24_hour_revenge_therapy:
--- Quote from: fin ---the individual tenets(sp?) of straightedge-ness as i understand*, such as not drinking, smoking, sleeping around etc are stand up ideas and i have respcect for anybody that follows them. What i find silly (dumb silly) is the whole religiion** aspect of it, and the idea of breaking edge and excluding somebody from your club who doesnt share youre *exact**** beliefs. maybe i'm missing the point or maybe all the sXe's are****.
*i probally dont.
**not as in god, but as is system of belief.
***i may be wrong, im in a mildly drunken philisophical mood.
****is it true that the whole X thing sstarted with showing solidarity to the underage kids at gigs, if so, its a cool idea taken to a silly extreme.
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well, you've stumbled onto one of the more difficult points of being sxe. what DO you do with someone who sells out (that's my term, btw)? well, theyre not sxe anymore. sorry. it's just that simple. you can be drug free, or not drink, or whatever, but if your edge and you start to drink, your not edge anymore. i usually liken it to buddism. not that they really have anything in common, just that they're both a lifestyle, a choice. and once you stop living that lifestyle, then your no longer sxe, and you never will be again. i'll still be your friend, just please don't claim edge.
of course, this is my personal philosphy. don't take this as the be all and end all of sxe belief.
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