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Signum_Tenebrae:

--- Quote from: KharBevNor ---Nah, Metallica were once pretty good.
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I agree with you there.

What's really funny is, that if you listen to the first Metallica record (Kill 'Em All,) it's pure Mercyful Fate worship.  Funny how Metallica is a household name but most "casual" metal listeners don't know who Mercyful Fate is.

Ride The Lightning is great, of course.  Pretty much everything up until (but not including) the Black Album was good.  Heck even the Black Album, Load, and Reload were decent compared to St. Anger.  St. Anger is mid-life crisis metal. . a bunch of washed out, once good musicians trying desperately to cling to the dying fad of nu-metal to milk just a little more money out of their mockery of music.

KharBevNor:
I have a bit of a soft-spot for the Black Album as it was one of my gateway releases (though it's critically overplayed), but have been able to see no real merit in Metallica since, beyond the odd decent rock song. I once, in a fit of stupidity, bought the truly aeful 'The Unnamed Feeling' EP, and let me tell you this: They suck bad live too.

Hector Gilbert:

--- Quote from: Revenge_Therapist ---Hey Green Day was once good listen to Kerplunk. They wrote pretty good stuff. they even still kinda do. They just spend way too much time trying to look punk rock.
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I generally agree with this statement.  I prefer to think of Green Day as being a pop-rock band rather than a punk rock band, and I enjoy their first two albums more than what came later.  39/Smooth is a pretty unusual release despite its plainly obvious mainstream sensibilities, with a kind of tongue-in-cheek "wannabe popular high school boy" theme running straight through it and much more attention paid to clear and simple riffs than in any of their later albums.  Kerplunk is the most solemn Green Day album I have heard, with some interesting social commentary as well as the tongue-in-cheek style of the debut.

Slipknot to me are like musical sugar rather than musical food for thought.  I've downloaded both their self-titled debut and their latest, and both gave me a bit of a rush while laughing at the hilariously affected vocals and secretly admiring the interesting/elaborate rhythm section.  I'd listen to them loads and then eventually grow tired of the novelty, glad that I didn't actually spend money on 'em - unlike say music from quite a few "real" metal or grind bands such as Napalm Death and Darkthrone, who I actually had to develop a taste for but would definitely spend money on now.  If someone were to play an album of Slipknot's I would still be pretty happy sitting there and listening to it.

As for whether Slipknot are "metal" or not, I really couldn't care less.  As long as a band confronts me in the right way, by being inventive in its song-writing techniques or otherwise, it doesn't matter what genre the band supposedly inhabits.  If I were asked about Slipknot's self-titled though I would be stuck between nu-metal and grind with somewhat grim-sounding production values.

blindsuperhero:
Green Day are a punk rock band who play pop music. Seriously, they're punker than you.

KharBevNor:

--- Quote from: blindsuperhero ---Green Day are a punk rock band who play pop music. Seriously, they're punker than you.
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Whatever, I have Stiff Little Fingers vinyl and an eighties Anti-Nowhere League patch. *slap*

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