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MilkmanDan:

--- Quote from: a pack of wolves ---There's more to politics than lyrical content though. The way in which the music is treated as a product, attitudes to gender and sexuality, methods of performance, and has been pointed out the political environment the artist comes from... all these add political dimensions. I can't think of a piece of art which is apolitical. I can think of very few things which are myself.
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Oh. That kind of political. If you want to start dragging all that crap under the banner of 'political' well then yeah, sure, everyone who has ever picked up an instrument, let alone recorded and released an album, is making political statements. You bought your guiter? Woah there, That's tacit consent for all capitalist economies and social systems, buddy. So yeah, I have no view on that kind of 'politics' in music, as frankly it's bit "wanky socialist student" as Khar so elequently put it. Normally I find myself under that category, but not this time.

Johnny C:
I think political songs become much better when they are either very subtle or cryptic enough that the meaning is only obvious when one actually puts some thought into the lyrics.

Except for "America Is Not The World." That song is awesome.

KharBevNor:

--- Quote from: blindsuperhero ---All around my hat...
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The music police chuckle jocularly at what they believe to be the first subtly placed, opportune Steeleye Span reference ever made. Have a cookie.

Political songs either need, in my mind, to be subtle or be totally in your face, and actually have something to say whilst it's there. There's no real middle ground. Wishy washyness has no place in my view of music.

My favourite explicitly political artists:
Skyclad (duh)
Bob Dylan (Earlier stuff, whilst he was still really angry about everything)
KMFDM (Again, earlier stuff, Angst is my personal favourite album)
Ministry (Either of the 'Bush albums')
Anti-Flag
Propaghandi (some. As said above, I don't always agree with them: which is all damn well and good)

Those are only ones who I'd definitely paint as political bands.

muffy:
I agree with what people are saying about politics having some subtlety - some things get overstated and become fashion statements, not genuine political feelings - I prefer it to have a personal element to it.

That said, that song by The Others 'This is for the Poor' about how rich kids don't have a clue and have no right to listen to their music can fuck RIGHT off - yes, it's political, but in all honesty, if you're someone from a terminally skint background (as am I), you have enough stuff to deal with without some gimp like that claiming to be your spokesperson.

So I guess attempting to be political can backfire, but I'd rather have someone putting some thought into why they're saying what they say.

I think Pulp did more for political music than any other band I can think of at the moment, but maybe that's just me.

blindsuperhero:
Is it any coincidence that when Radiohead starting being overtly political, they also started to suck?

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